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Ya do sort of wonder how using increased lightweight aluminum in the Mustang might impact the cost? In that regard the F150 is probably a good trial balloon given that people will buy them in great numbers regardless.

Time to take a page out the F150 playbook? ;)

Yeah, you're probably not far off the mark and hey it would certainly be welcome. I'm just of the mind that it wasn't a point of emphasis for the design team the way it might have been in the past.

DAMN! :eyebulge: Thanks for the info. I've heard the difference between the auto and MT6 isn't that huge, maybe like 25 lbs iirc but still 165 lbs is significant.

That seemed really weird to me as well. I've heard some other speculate it may be due to the fact that stock turbo is already maxed out in an effort to combat lag? My presumption is this will be one of the tings we'll know asap as one of the first things the aftermarket tuners will do ( which...

I told a lot of people this early on that Ford was signalling that it's decades long battle w/ Camaro is over as far as they are concerned when they announced the design target for this car was the M3, non-turbo 911, etc. Seriously, the Camaro vs Mustang is an after thought for the current GT...

:clap2::hail: That early video of the white GT power sliding all over that auto-x course must have made you cringe almost inconsolably! I'd still say a "base" eb car w/ MT6 / PP / Recaros might be the real track day hero of this bunch though. :shrug:

Asymmetrical width tire layouts have existed for quite some time, it's one of the reasons I tell the hacks at tire shops to kiss my @$$ when the start talking about rotating my tires! :rant: For the hardcore track guys like over at Corner Carvers the conventional wisdom seems to have shifted on...

Good points! Iirc the track of my '01 Cobra is +1" front to rear as well. People have surmised over the years that part of the reason for that was a poor attempt to fill out the rear fender wells better which are wider than the fronts . . . it was a very poor attempt. As far as the S550 goes...

Eh I was just saying man. Your budget obviously has more latitude but yes I do think it might matter for other people who's goal may be to stay below $30k as that F-ST vs base eb car fall into that category. For me the dreaded torque-steer on a high hp fwd car is a deal breaker no matter how...

Did ya know the difference in cost between a base eb Mustang w/ M6 / PP / Recaros and a fully optioned Focus ST is just slightly less than $1k? I was looking at the F-ST myself and then sorta stumbled across this factoid.

Newbs have the advantage of having a fresh perspective whereas the folks that have been around longer get a bit jaded or at the very least have an altered personal level of expectation and possibly slightly more cynical perspective. The way to flatten this is instrumented testing and to a...

LOL! This has always been dependent on how big your feet are and what kind of shoes you might be wearing it seems.

Nice review from a down-to-earth car guys perspective. Too bad he couldn't get into the MT6 / PP / ecoboost car, that is the one review I've been missing and I really want to hear! I found this bit to be rather salient: Someone else in another thread mentioned this and the fact that the GT PP...

Does anyone know if the sound standards are perhaps different/lower in Europe or Asia and that's why this might have happened? Since the exhaust seems universally to be muted and possibly restricted it'll be interesting to see what possible gains might be there once people start swapping it...

It's been my impression that the issue w/ brake fade as it plagues production cars in track testing has more to do w/ cooling air flow around the brake rotors rather than some deficiency of the brakes themselves. I've found that rather than dither around w/ constantly trying to fit larger and...

I'd agree. One of the things I'd be interested to see would be a head-to-head test w/ a '15 GT PP car vs a '14 GT PP car and then a Boss. What a lot of these initial "first drive" reviews lack is a point of reference and I think a lot of people will be surprised at how much better this new...

Jeremy Clarkson would say this is b/c Americans are fat, lazy, boorish and clearly over concerned hauling around too many material possessions . . . b/c clearly Jeremy Clarkson is the picture of the svelte, conservatively spoken minimalist European. :frusty:

:clap2: Linkage please?!

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