Engine Debate

[JeffreyDJ]

They're all pointless debates because there's no right answer. The whole point is to get the car YOU want. Anyone who calls you a "poser" or "girly man" because you didn't get the same config they did is really just fooling themselves. Owner enthusiasm can't be measured by how many cylinders there are under the hood or how many pedals there are underfoot. And I know this'll be a shock to some, but real manhood has absolutely nothing to do with the car one drives anyway.

Agreed completely.

I've always had V8 mustangs, except for my first two: an '82 GL and a '94 V6 that was totaled. I've had a 1997 GT, 1999 GT Convertible, a 2004 Mach 1 and a 2009 GT.

Growing up, my dad had a 65 coupe with a 289, and a 65 fastback.

For 2015 I got the I4 Ecoboost and I couldn't be happier. A real enthusiast wouldn't judge another owner based on what they got. Earlier in the thread someone said they wouldn't even approach or talk to a non-V8 owner unless the car was obviously modded. That is a mistake. First and foremost it's a Mustang. I appreciate all Mustang owners and will talk to any and all of them.

Some people can't afford a V8. Others, like me, could afford the GT but I chose the Ecoboost for various reasons. And let me tell you, it doesn't have the rumble of my last few V8's (which I had Borla Exhaust on), but it is amazingly fun to drive and puts a smile on my face.

I've modded in some shape or form every mustang I've owned and will this one as well. I don't make it to the track any longer, and likely won't for a very long time. So, the only streets I'll be on are of the public variety.

All of that to say, I love Mustangs of all shapes and sizes. I am first and foremost a MUSTANG fan. If someone only cares about displacement, cylinders, etc. maybe we just won't get along at car meets. But, that'll be your loss, not mine

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[NDSP]

This is exactly what I'm talking about. But, if you see an EB rolling in as well, is it lame too?

Not really, they have some serious potential. So no.

 

[cosmo]

Choice was pretty easy for me. I love the V6 in my 2011, but there's no Premium trim offered with the V6, and I couldn't do without the Premium trim, so that was out. The 2.3T was out since I refuse to get a forced-induction engine -- my days of driving unreliable cars are over, and I just don't see a turbocharged engine lasting 500,000-750,000 miles without a rebuild the way a naturally aspirated engine would. So it was a GT or nothing.

500000-750000 miles? Sorry to burst your bubble but they don't design engines to run anywhere near that kind of mileage. 150000 is what is designed to typically, and I highly highly doubt the cyclone or coyote can hit that mileage either. Especially in a performance vehicle.

 

[Malikona]

Choice was pretty easy for me. I love the V6 in my 2011, but there's no Premium trim offered with the V6, and I couldn't do without the Premium trim, so that was out. The 2.3T was out since I refuse to get a forced-induction engine -- my days of driving unreliable cars are over, and I just don't see a turbocharged engine lasting 500,000-750,000 miles without a rebuild the way a naturally aspirated engine would. So it was a GT or nothing.

Three quarters of a million miles, lmao. It's a performance car, not a semi truck. Oh and most semi trucks are probably forced induction. Turbo engines are way more reliable than they used to be.

 

[Mustang Convert]

My 0.02 is there are a lot of wannabe tough guys rolling in thier 5.0 who really can't afford it on a reasonable budget. There are a lot of ppl like me buying EBs who could get a GT if they wanted but find more value in the added premium features/lower costs. Obviously if you plan to race with it or if money is not an issue a 5.0 is what you should get

Agreed. In another thread some people were saying they were spending up to 25% of their income to get a GT. Some still lived with parents. No thanks.

 

[K-Roll302]

500000-750000 miles? Sorry to burst your bubble but they don't design engines to run anywhere near that kind of mileage. 150000 is what is designed to typically, and I highly highly doubt the cyclone or coyote can hit that mileage either. Especially in a performance vehicle.

But some cars can, and do make it that far, I recall a Porsche 356 that was daily driven for 40 years straight made it to 1,000,000 miles on the original motor a couple years ago; and that car is almost 50-60 years old now.

It CAN be done, I'm sure some Mustang has gone that far by now?

 

[JimmyTwoTimes]

500000-750000 miles? Sorry to burst your bubble but they don't design engines to run anywhere near that kind of mileage. 150000 is what is designed to typically, and I highly highly doubt the cyclone or coyote can hit that mileage either. Especially in a performance vehicle.

My sister's Carolla (which has been in my family for almost 40 years) has 600,000 miles and counting with no full engine rebuilds. I've driven multiple 200K+ cars and one 500K car (a 1986 Chrysler Town & Country). Take care of a car properly and it shouldn't break, period.

 

[JimmyTwoTimes]

Three quarters of a million miles, lmao. It's a performance car, not a semi truck. Oh and most semi trucks are probably forced induction. Turbo engines are way more reliable than they used to be.

Semis are mostly diesels. Diesel engines tend to last longer.

And yes, it's a performance car, but if you treat it right -- never race it; never let it get above 4,000 rpm; change all of the fluids and belts and hoses diligently; never run it hard when it's cold -- you shouldn't have any problems hitting a half-million miles with it, unless there's some innate design defect.

 

[Wblv17]

mustang is to drive, all quick. Don't baby it, let her eat.

 

[Malikona]

My sister's Carolla (which has been in my family for almost 40 years) has 600,000 miles and counting with no full engine rebuilds. I've driven multiple 200K+ cars and one 500K car (a 1986 Chrysler Town & Country). Take care of a car properly and it shouldn't break, period.

I really want to have a Mustang with 750000 miles on the odometer. Half of those on the track too.

 

[Malikona]

Semis are mostly diesels. Diesel engines tend to last longer.

And yes, it's a performance car, but if you treat it right -- never race it; never let it get above 4,000 rpm; change all of the fluids and belts and hoses diligently; never run it hard when it's cold -- you shouldn't have any problems hitting a half-million miles with it, unless there's some innate design defect.

If you're never going to drive it over 4000 rpm, then you should DEFINITELY get the EcoBoost. The V8 probably only makes 200 hp at 4000 rpm, if that.

I'm sorry but if longevity is your primary goal, you are getting the wrong car.

 

[JimmyTwoTimes]

I really want to have a Mustang with 750000 miles on the odometer. Half of those on the track too.

My 2015 will never see a track, but I fully expect it to still be daily-driven by somebody in 2050. I take care of cars.

 

[Wblv17]

never let it get above 4,000 rpm;

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

or let her eat and hit 7k daily. under 4k sounds so boring. like moped time not performance car

 

[cosmo]

But some cars can, and do make it that far, I recall a Porsche 356 that was daily driven for 40 years straight made it to 1,000,000 miles on the original motor a couple years ago; and that car is almost 50-60 years old now.

It CAN be done, I'm sure some Mustang has gone that far by now?

Ehh... It is POSSIBLE. But that requires you getting lucky on the engine build, every part placed into the engine at near perfect specifications, and no issues while driving (no rocks thrown up and hitting a tube, etc). All 3 of the engines will easily hit 150,000 miles, today's manufacturing specifications are much better nowadays. Even so, not buying a vehicle because you don't think it can hit 500,000+ miles is ridiculous.

Seeing as the 2.3L block is in the same family and is based on architecture that has been around for over a decade (a Mazda design when Ford+Mazda was a thing), I don't see any problem there either.

 

[JimmyTwoTimes]

If you're never going to drive it over 4000 rpm, then you should DEFINITELY get the EcoBoost. The V8 probably only makes 200 hp at 4000 rpm, if that.

I'm sorry but if longevity is your primary goal, you are getting the wrong car.

In my 2011 V6 I rarely get above 2,000 rpm -- rarely as in, maybe for ten seconds total every 100 miles, merging into quick-moving traffic -- and it's been at least a year since I got over 3,000 rpm. I like to keep it easy on engines.

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