EcoBoost vs. Pre-Coyote GT?

[w3rkn]

All in all...

I'd still take the S550 and 2.3L EB, over last gen chassis and non-coyote.


I like cars that can handle and Ford Performance has stuff for the EB. I do think a nicely done EB can pump out 380ft-lbs reliably and be lightweight on it's feet. That is almost a match for the S550 GT.


I think Ford is waiting for the new 9/10 speed gear boxes coming, before they flush these engines out.

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[Tm@c1965]

Sadness

"Riceifcation" happens just as easily with a GT...

Perhaps it's a generation y thing.

 

[Tm@c1965]

For your veiwing pleasure

I think this may be worse than a ricer.

 

[rgingo]

All in all...

I'd still take the S550 and 2.3L EB, over last gen chassis and non-coyote.


I like cars that can handle and Ford Performance has stuff for the EB. I do think a nicely done EB can pump out 380ft-lbs reliably and be lightweight on it's feet. That is almost a match for the S550 GT.


I think Ford is waiting for the new 9/10 speed gear boxes coming, before they flush these engines out.

I think Ford deliberately employed a very conservative tune on the 2.3T to begin it's role as the eventual replacement for the 6 without encroaching on the Coyote's territory. With an intercooler upgrade and a moderate tune, the 2.3T does indeed move into the average 8-cyl performance zone. With an improved exhaust, this turbo 4 can sound very good (relative to most cars), even if not the same as the Coyote (it needs an aftermarket exhaust also to sound it's best). I wouldn't be surprised if the Mustang eventually got a 3.7T (like in the new Ford GT supercar), relegating the Coyote to a "traditional" type of muscle-car niche option (mostly due to MPG and emissions).

I am personally going for a MAP or Mishimoto intercooler, COBB AP (Cobb or MAP tune), a MAP, Magnaflow, Cobb or Mishimoto catback and a UPR catch-can. (Waiting for slowpokes COBB and Mishimoto exhausts). Any comments on this?

 

[15wile]

I think this may be worse than a ricer.

Donks are f*cking stupid.

 

[Hack]

I much prefer the sound of an 8, but if the EB were faster in stock form I would be tempted to buy it. I typically daily drive my Mustang year round, so I prefer not to modify them due to concerns that I will have problems when it's below zero in the winter. I in fact had the check engine light come on in my 2011 GT a couple times 2 years ago on some days that were more than 20 below zero, and it was a great feeling going to the dealer and knowing that they would fix it if there was anything wrong.

 

[Tony Alonso]

The 2010 also had the highest rated "normal" version of this motor from the factory. Still... I feel for the guys who bought the '10, and then the very next year it was Coyote time...

But yeah. The OP was probably talking more about the 05-10 4.6L cars, since it put out very similar peak numbers as the EB motor.

No need to feel sorry. The 4.6L of that time felt great driving around town, especially since you could run it with 87 octane gas to get the advertised power. I thoroughly enjoyed and picked that engine on purpose (had a 2010 GtT), knowing that a new 5.0L was likely coming to market.

If I was a drag racer, I might have felt slighted.

The new technology is amazing, and the seat-of-the-pants feel in the low-to-midrange is what likely some evaluate when comparing the engines. They feel similar in some regards. I considered the EB for the fuel economy benefits, but I really like the V8 sound.

On pure performance and potential for more power, both engines their merits. It's all about what is most important to the buyer.

By the way, a similar comparison is brewing among Ford GT owners. EB V6 instead of a supercharged V8? Which would you choose? In that car, the EB V6 sounds awesome, even though the V8 of the last one sounded great. In the GT, the EB helps the packaging and weight, so I am all for it in that example.

 

[Barrel]

Donks are f*cking stupid.

No more so than the "stanced" cars, IMO.

 

[Tm@c1965]

I thought slammed cars

...were a subset of the Rice category.

 

[15wile]

No more so than the "stanced" cars, IMO.

Tough call. I'd give 'em about equal dumbass points.

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