Ecoboost Engine Blown?

[Blk2015GT]

You don't have to agree, but you aren't going to change Ford's decision either. People want to wave MagMoss around, but do you really know anyone who has been successful with that? It wasn't intended to be used to defend aftermarket performance parts, but aftermarket alternatives to oem parts.

I do, but they ended up spending more fighting it on principle than the repair would've cost full price. The dealership/Ford has WAY more money than all of us here combined to fight.

Now they did get back their attorney's fees for winning per the statute, but after laying out 5 figures and months/years later. But all of that time down the hole and stress you'll never get back. It's just not worth is 99% of the time.

Some people are too stubborn to convince though what is in their bet interest. More money than brains.

It's VERY rare to win a MagMoss auto case, and even then, most of the caselaw (wins) out there have nothing to do with aftermarket mods but rather where one went to get the car serviced or bad repairs done by dealership.

Again the statutory intent is to prohibit voiding a warranty for an aftermarket part that is substantially similar to OEM- say a Fram oil filter instead of Motorcraft (Ford OEM) or to get your oil changes/service at mom and pop shop and not the dealership, NOT to modify the parameters of your vehicle (engine, ECU, etc) via aftermarket parts and try to waive the Mag Moss Act as a shield.

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[Asharus]

i figured magmoss was basically useless to anyone who modifies their car, but i still see it being mentioned to make modders feel better about what they're doing.

 

[kz]

Exactly what Blk2015GT said. Anything that has potential to increase power / torque over OEM and MagMoss is off the table. Sue the OEM and they will eat you for breakfast. I can't believe how many people believe there are performance mods that are warranty friendly. And I can't believe that people are willing to take the bet for minor hp/tq increase that probably hang if them will never use...

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[Mattrix]

i figured magmoss was basically useless to anyone who modifies their car, but i still see it being mentioned to make modders feel better about what they're doing.

The problem is most people haven't actually taken the time to fully read the law and understand it. I was guilty of that myself. It's fun to mod cars and it's easy to get caught up in going too far. All it takes is for one bad incident though to make you regret it. I hope everyone that is reading this and modding their cars is putting a little more thought into the consequences than they did before.

 

[tsunami]

To Mod or not to Mod...

My last Mustang was a V8. This time I decided to go with the EB. I knew that the sound would not be as deep-throated as my old V8 nor would it have the HP or torque of the GT.
I compared the price of a modded EB versus a stock V8 GT. They were really close.
If you want to mod, just to mod...great. But if you are modding an EB to get it to sound and perform like the GT, why not just buy a GT and not have to worry about Ford refusing to warranty your vehicle?

 

[Asharus]

because some people love the "built, not bought" mentality.

 

[show7ime]

Or just wait for the Ford Racing tune and parts and maintain warranty... Oh well.


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[tsunami]

'because some people love the "built, not bought" mentality'.

But then these same people turn around and demand that Ford pay for any damage that might be caused by these mods. It is difficult to argue with Ford when they say "prove that the mods did NOT cause the problem!"

 

[ronv95]

because some people love the "built, not bought" mentality.

Buying a EB and bolting on parts doesn't constitute the car as being "built"...

 

[Asharus]

not the literal meaning of a built bottom end. i guess u never heard of that term before then.

 

[EcoMax]

My engine blew at 12k, no mods nothing, they claimed the piston rings were installed incorrectly from factory. they replaced the short block. The car is still currently broken, the turbo is not creating boost past 5psi, (all vacuum hoses are connected correctly), and there is a check engine light. I opened a BBB regarding the vehicle and they scheduled a meeting with my dealership to have the car looked at by a certified ford repair tech. I am trying to get out of owning this car. I have 1 more year on my lease. The scraping whistling sound coming from the turbo leads me to believe the turbo has been broken since I started noticing performance loss at 400 miles on the car. I have oil on the front of the crank case which looks to be coming out of the crank case seam and in the bottom of the throttle body.. My diagnosis oil seals in the turbo broke oil and vacuum going where it should not be. I asked the if they checked the turbo after replacing the short block they said they had no reason to check it and to drive it like I stole it.

 

[ryant601]

My engine blew at 12k, no mods nothing, they claimed the piston rings were installed incorrectly from factory. they replaced the short block. The car is still currently broken, the turbo is not creating boost past 5psi, (all vacuum hoses are connected correctly), and there is a check engine light. I opened a BBB regarding the vehicle and they scheduled a meeting with my dealership to have the car looked at by a certified ford repair tech. I am trying to get out of owning this car. I have 1 more year on my lease. The scraping whistling sound coming from the turbo leads me to believe the turbo has been broken since I started noticing performance loss at 400 miles on the car. I have oil on the front of the crank case which looks to be coming out of the crank case seam and in the bottom of the throttle body.. My diagnosis oil seals in the turbo broke oil and vacuum going where it should not be. I asked the if they checked the turbo after replacing the short block they said they had no reason to check it and to drive it like I stole it.

Makes me worried as I had that same oil spot as you did.

 

[neodark]

Makes me worried as I had that same oil spot as you did.

Where was this oil spot?

 

[ryant601]

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28523


Not sure mine was ever that bad, dealership wiped it clean and haven't seen a return of much. Maybe a very little bit.

 

[neodark]

Thanks, I have not seen that on mine yet.

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