ECOBOOM!

[hmdballa219]

Well guys had it towed to my local ford dealer whom i purchased car from, they said ford wont cover the damage and i have a blown motor. Took tuner off before that, and the top part of the engine was tampered with by my mechanic to check if it could be an easy fix. so they said that right there takes the warranty off and ford washes their hands with it.

Now what? still owe alot of money.
ANY SUGGESTIONS?!?!?!

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[Cobra Jet]

It's been said on here many, many, many times - even if your Mechanic never touched the upper engine - the TUNE can be found even if it's been "removed".

Looks like you have a 2015 also - is it a Spain engine?

 

[hmdballa219]

ya true but they said that was only the secondary factor of the denied warranty, it was tht the mechanic TOUCHED the top and took upper cover off and they could tell. yes 2015 PP ecoboost. Not sure if its spain engine. would have to see. Was built in may i believe thought if that helps. Anyway to trade in or cut my losses some how?

 

[ypena02]

what are the symptoms? Did it blow during a pull?

 

[hmdballa219]

very bad knock, no power at all, stuttering, getting louder as driving and seems like it doesnt want to go. almost like something is banging around internally. Like binding up. no visable damage nor hole in block.

 

[hmdballa219]

not a pull but high RPM, and that was all she wrote. :(

 

[ypena02]

very bad knock, no power at all, stuttering, getting louder as driving and seems like it doesnt want to go. almost like something is banging around internally. Like binding up. no visable damage nor hole in block.

Were you doing pulls or racing it when it happened? which oil are you running?

 

[hmdballa219]

just an excess aceleration while leaving work, nothing THAT crazy. And the stock motorcraft, only have 12k miles on it.

 

[ElAviator72]

ya true but they said that was only the secondary factor of the denied warranty, it was tht the mechanic TOUCHED the top and took upper cover off and they could tell. yes 2015 PP ecoboost. Not sure if its spain engine. would have to see. Was built in may i believe thought if that helps. Anyway to trade in or cut my losses some how?

My first car (see sig) was a May 2015 build with an engine from Spain. In hindsight, I'm glad the car got totaled before I had to deal with the dreaded ecoboom :frusty: Just hit 12k miles today on my 2016 Ecoboost PP with a Cleveland engine. Haven't modded anything yet, however I have had some instances of hesitation/misfiring (which I cured with a bottle of Chevron Techron Concentrate). The Focus ST folks are pretty convinced that an ecoboom is proceeded by up to a 30% reduction on fuel flow on one of the injectors... (they're DI also, on a very similar engine, like ours but with shorter stroke and no twin scroll turbo). The Focus ST also uses a Mazdaspeed 3 based block...

 

[Cobra Jet]

So what exactly did your personal mechanic do with regards to his looking at your enable that Ford was able to tell something was amiss physically on the exterior of the engine?

Is the car blowing any smoke?

As far as trading it in, no Dealer is going to want to do a trade on it if it has a blown engine. Even if they were to consider, you're going to still take a big hit on the trade value. Not knowing your position financially on the car, was it being financed or leased? If you owe on it, are you currently upside down? Just some things to consider, that's all.

Unfortunately, the repair cost is not cheap. I think one guy on here had to pay out of pocket due to his blowing up due to a tune as well... I can't recall the exact price out of pocket to replace the engine, but I think it was upwards of $7k... Someone may be able to find his thread.

It sucks that it happened, but if you can get another engine - at least it will be a new engine (Cleveland) with the most up to date parts... And it may even be warranted if the R&R is done by a Ford Service Center. So on the positive side, you'll have a brand new engine, still have your Mustang and if you owe on it, you're still knocking down months on the current loan.

I mean either way you're going to toss $$$ if you hand over keys to Dealer for any possible trade or end up getting it fixed...I am pretty sure you'll save more $$$ in the long run by just fixing it, instead of having to lose more by trading and having to spend more $$$ on another vehicle.

 

[PRG3k]

What was your OAR? Were you monitoring that at all?

I'm going to guess the mechanic was either a swami in that he simply touched the engine and diagnosed it. More likely that he took a look at all your bolt on's and then took the cover off and checked you for aftermarket plugs too and that was enough digging.

I'm not too surprised. Your 'full-bolt-on' status whether your tune was taken off or not (engineer can probably find that without too much difficulty) was an easy thing for them to deny you for.

Sucks. I would wait for a thorough diagnosis from Ford but you are really at the mercy of them telling you whatever they want.


Were you stranded somewhere? If this ever happened to me I would try my best to get the car back to my house to take all the bolt on parts off. That will give you the best chance of getting something covered.

 

[Slow89]

I remember seeing a stock short block being pretty damn cheap straight from ford. Like 1200-1400 cheap

 

[lisandra]

dealer just told me fuel pumps on these go very bad before giving you a sign or check engine light. In fact I just had mine replaced, and only because I saw a code on the access port. when they tested it it was waaaay bust

 

[Maggneto]

Well guys had it towed to my local ford dealer whom i purchased car from, they said ford wont cover the damage and i have a blown motor. Took tuner off before that, and the top part of the engine was tampered with by my mechanic to check if it could be an easy fix. so they said that right there takes the warranty off and ford washes their hands with it.

Now what? still owe alot of money.
ANY SUGGESTIONS?!?!?!

How many times do we have to tell you kids to NOT void the warranty if you can't afford to fix it yourself?

Your options are....

1.> Fix it yourself.
2.> Pay someone else to fix it.
3.> Stop paying for it and let the repo man tow it away.
4.> Tell your dad he can borrow the car and when it doesn't start blame him and tell him to get it fixed.
5.> Pull a David Copperfield and make it disappear and collect insurance.
6.> Jewish lightning, collect insurance

Also, all this talk about Spain vs. US engine is nonsense is it not? What evidence exists that there are actual part differences between these engines? I thought Adam from Tune+ broke down a Spanish engine and found some bolts were not torqued correctly but no part difference. Correct me if I am wrong and please provide documentation to back up your claims.

 

[Slow89]

dealer just told me fuel pumps on these go very bad before giving you a sign or check engine light. In fact I just had mine replaced, and only because I saw a code on the access port. when they tested it it was waaaay bust

Wait what???? First time I've ever heard of this. Not saying it's not true but can you go a little more in depth.

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