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[RustedAngel]

Stop that check! Ford says carbon fiber wheels won’t cost $30,000

Read more: http://autoweek.com/article/car-new...on-fiber-wheels-wont-cost-30000#ixzz3hxZQJG5q
http://autoweek.com/article/car-news/stop-check-ford-says-carbon-fiber-wheels-wont-cost-30000

Article states: We talked to a Ford spokesman this morning and he denied that price, asking, “If the car is $60-some-thousand, how could the wheels possibly be 30K?”

The car is over 100k at some dealers, so what does the MSRP have to do with what dealers are going to sell them for?

This invoice was from a well known Shelby dealer. They also claim, as of last night, to have 3 full price orders placed already.

So regardless if they cost Ford that much, the dealer that much, etc., what they'll sell for to the public, is a completely different story. So questioning the veracity of the invoice is somewhat moot, as it didn't come from
Ford - it came from one of their high level dealers.

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[10splaya22]

The car is over 100k at some dealers, so what does the MSRP have to do with what dealers are going to sell them for?

This invoice was from a well known Shelby dealer. They also claim, as of last night, to have 3 full price orders placed already.

So regardless if they cost Ford that much, the dealer that much, etc., what they'll sell for to the public, is a completely different story. So questioning the veracity of the invoice is somewhat moot, as it didn't come from
Ford - it came from one of their high level dealers.

The car has an MSRP of 63k or so. ADM has nothing to do with what the wheels cost at all.

You might want to check your sources because I believe someone from Ford themselves has more credibility than whatever dealer it was. As others have said, you can put whatever you want on an invoice. That price means nothing.

 

[Zemedici]

like I said in my first post...I don't think I believe the $30k number.

 

[Zemedici]

The car is over 100k at some dealers, so what does the MSRP have to do with what dealers are going to sell them for?

This invoice was from a well known Shelby dealer. They also claim, as of last night, to have 3 full price orders placed already.

So regardless if they cost Ford that much, the dealer that much, etc., what they'll sell for to the public, is a completely different story. So questioning the veracity of the invoice is somewhat moot, as it didn't come from
Ford - it came from one of their high level dealers.

what you're saying makes no sense. A dealership does not determine the suggested price of something, the manufacturer does. Hence the term MSRP

So that dealership charges 30k, other dealerships should too? Because if they were selling for 30k, I'd sell for 20k, and guess what? I'd have a SHITLOAD more wheels moving off the shelf.

As stated, I wouldn't believe the hype just yet. As I can manipulate the invoice to say whatever price I want is 'retail'

 

[Spa2k]

Can we please go back to complaining about ADM now?

 

[Steve68]

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[RustedAngel]

what you're saying makes no sense. A dealership does not determine the suggested price of something, the manufacturer does. Hence the term MSRP

So that dealership charges 30k, other dealerships should too? Because if they were selling for 30k, I'd sell for 20k, and guess what? I'd have a SHITLOAD more wheels moving off the shelf.

As stated, I wouldn't believe the hype just yet. As I can manipulate the invoice to say whatever price I want is 'retail'

I'll try to be more clear - Ford says the wheels don't cost that much.

Ford is the one who sets the MSRP - the baseline price for the general public.

But you're not buying it from Ford - you're buying from their dealers.

So Ford doubting the veracity of the invoice from one of their dealers is somewhat moot.

This is what that dealer is selling those wheels for, regardless of what they paid Ford for them.

Does that mean every dealer will have that same uptick? No, of course not.

But if they know they can get close to that, it's definitely a good starting point to gauge roughly what they're going to be commanding on the aftermarket. No different than ADM currently being dug for the cars themselves, expecting them to be readily available for significantly cheaper, outside of the owners of the cars themselves who are willing to sell them, that is, is probably unrealistic at this point in time.

So it's not out of the realm of possibilities with 30 and 40K ADM on cars, to see a 10K markup on something as centralized and specific such as this wheel.

If the manufacturer is limited in the amount of wheels they can produce outside of the R supply for Ford, and the only main supply of wheels is going to R production, a limited supply could easily keep the availability of these wheels down, and thus keep the price lofty.

But we'll definitely see. I'm just as interested as anyone to see how this sticks.

 

[DruidBlack]

Agree with this^

It's obviously not an "official" price for these in terms of what Ford will charge but it's a markup and if it is from a big dealer they could be gauging or setting the market price for these in the aftermarket. Either way it is pointing to these being really really expensive wheels. If people aren't willing to pay this much (they'd be crazy to IMO) then it will come down in price but it's a pretty darn high starting point right now capitalizing on hype for this car.

Ford wasn't joking when they said this will not be an easy car to replicate.

 

[DWC_SmOziLLa]

You will NOT see these wheels sold anywhere for less than $15,000. Not gonna happen...

The sad part is, although crammed pack with great technology, these wheels aren't even truly carbon fiber. They're a carbon fiber reinforced polymer construction.

 

[FPCV8YO]

You will NOT see these wheels sold anywhere for less than $15,000. Not gonna happen...

The sad part is, although crammed pack with great technology, these wheels aren't even truly carbon fiber. They're a carbon fiber reinforced polymer construction.

Agreed however, that hasn't stopped Ford from using carbon fiber to describe them.

 

[DWC_SmOziLLa]

Actual list price for these will be in the $24k range, with dealer cost being significantly less. The price that was shown was surely a inflated retail. Ford prices items like this so obscenely high because they do NOT want to sell them on a case by case basis. And have all that money out there in overhead and inventory costs for parts that still cost them thousands upon thousands of dollars. Parts like these wheels are made for production cars and extras for insurance claim purposes. And if regular V6/EcoBoost/GT folks want to get their hands on them, they're gonna pay...quite a bit.

A lot of people here will not remember the $14K GT500KR hood that Ford tried to sell.

 

[krt22]

You will NOT see these wheels sold anywhere for less than $15,000. Not gonna happen...

The sad part is, although crammed pack with great technology, these wheels aren't even truly carbon fiber. They're a carbon fiber reinforced polymer construction.

That is pretty much a given for any carbon fiber part, nothing new. You can't just have bare carbon without a composite matrix to keep it all together, unless the application only requires uni-axial strength

 

[101charley]

No problem. What's the big deal? I will order 2 sets right away, one for summer and one winter!

 

[R 350 gt Donson]

Actual list price for these will be in the $24k range, with dealer cost being significantly less. The price that was shown was surely a inflated retail. Ford prices items like this so obscenely high because they do NOT want to sell them on a case by case basis. And have all that money out there in overhead and inventory costs for parts that still cost them thousands upon thousands of dollars. Parts like these wheels are made for production cars and extras for insurance claim purposes. And if regular V6/EcoBoost/GT folks want to get their hands on them, they're gonna pay...quite a bit.

A lot of people here will not remember the $14K GT500KR hood that Ford tried to sell.

Shelby america wants 15K for the S550 supersnake hood, and you have to have and prove you need the replacement

 

[Zemedici]

Shelby america wants 15K for the S550 supersnake hood, and you have to have and prove you need the replacement

same stuff mystichrome guys used to have to do with their cobra body parts.

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