Don't destroy your R Wheels.

[Bullitt2065]

I really don't get it. You're buying an R which the MAIN feature is the CF wheels over the G350, but want to take them off and store them. What for a rainy day?

You can get magnaride in a regular 350 and delete the rear seat with an aftermarket kit in a few mins of effort. There's really very very few other differences with the R.

I understand a 2nd set of wheel not wanting to track the CF wheels i certain scenarios risking damage since they're expensive, but put in storage and never use them? Why even buy an R to begin with then; just get a 350 track pack and save $. The big part of the price difference from the 350 to R is those CF wheels. Mine as well just garage queen the whole car for fear of a paint chip, I mean cmon if you buy an R use the CF wheels you paid extra for to get an R model as intended.

It's a classic case of risk vs. reward. Is the risk of a wheel being damaged or stolen (looks like about $7000 for a replacement) worth the reward of using that wheel?

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[MS52390]

Right but 40-50 pounds of the 100 something weight savings is the wheels. Another big one is a rear seat delete you can do to any Mustang or regular GT350.

Ok sure you get the aluminum front beam and no A/C but you nixed the biggest weight saver already. I just don't see the value at that point of the R over the 350 track package.

I totally hear what your saying. And for me personally, this is why I don't need an R. I'd want to take the rims off, I wouldn't be able to track it much etc. The GT350+tech pkg. is borderline impractical for me where I live, so the R would just be silly. Luckily the GT350 is on the acceptable side of that border for me lol :clap2:

 

[68fbjjz109]

So here's another way of looking at it: The R wheels cost $467 per pound saved (using Ford's over-the-counter price of $28,000 per set and Ford's statement that the carbon fiber wheels save 15 pounds per corner). Colin Chapman, the master of "adding lightness" at Lotus, must be spinning in his grave! :eyebulge:

Wheel the wheels are still simplish..., just had to add lightness.

 

[PP0001]

I'm in Houston, and plan to not only sometimes daily drive it, but indeed track it. I live a mere 2ish hours away from COTA!

I do want to keep the Cup 2s. I plan to do something along the lines of Forgeline/BBS setup. I'll let you know once I find the right car at a price I'm okay with, and we can go from there!

I appreciate the cordial response, btw.

As for ordering a R, there's more to it other than just the wheels. It could be something as silly as wanting the red badges, calipers, and aero. Or the enhanced cooling tidbits in the R package.

But with wheels, there's so many things that can happen to them. I'd rather have something that is close in weight, comparable in durability, and more readily available to replace, not to mention more affordable to do so, if and when I flub a line a bit too much and end up in a gravel runoff pit.

Or blasting down a backroad and find a pothole that wasn't there the week before.

Different strokes and such.

Based on tracking your car I completely understand your concerns as I have gotten way off course due to driver error and being too aggressive.

When the time is right please contact me as I would certainly like to have an additional set of wheels for my car.

 

[thePill]

I heard a quart of Liquid Blue cost $200,000... :lol:

 

[Cruzinaround]

While you guys are freaking out over wheels...I was freaking out over a simple spoiler... :first:

Did you have a VIN number to do this lookup? The Part number doesn't pull up on the site. So Does this mean you need to have a verified VIN and actually own the car to buy the Wing? This would likely apply to the wheels as well if you're looking for an OEM replacement. I Guess to keep the not GT350 crowd from buying parts for a conversion.

Makes sense to have a set of wheels for Showing and another for Going. The daily set does not need to be the OEM CF Wheels and would probably serve better to have a stepped down set of tires since those Sport Cups are going to be bald before you realize it. So store them and swap em when you are going to a show. That's being practical at least.

Otherwise if you're determined to drive the "r" everyday....prepare to invest in new tires every year.

 

[fuhrius]

one thing that is being overlooked in a lot of the discussion around weight is the distinction between rotational weight and non-rotational...and sprung versus unsprung weight. dropping unsprung, rotating weight (eg. wheels) is a lot different than dropping static, spring weight (back seat removal)

 

[Shmoke]

Did you have a VIN number to do this lookup? The Part number doesn't pull up on the site. So Does this mean you need to have a verified VIN and actually own the car to buy the Wing? This would likely apply to the wheels as well if you're looking for an OEM replacement. I Guess to keep the not GT350 crowd from buying parts for a conversion.

Makes sense to have a set of wheels for Showing and another for Going. The daily set does not need to be the OEM CF Wheels and would probably serve better to have a stepped down set of tires since those Sport Cups are going to be bald before you realize it. So store them and swap em when you are going to a show. That's being practical at least.

Otherwise if you're determined to drive the "r" everyday....prepare to invest in new tires every year.

I pulled them up using make and model...however you must enter gt500 instead of gt350 and all the gt350 parts come up. Some parts say "call" the dealer for pricing. If you want the R wing...it states to call.

 

[10splaya22]

These numbers don't mean anything. The price can be changed by the dealer. Doesn't mean the numbers are wrong but they should be taken with a grain of salt until Ford releases a price.

 

[krt22]

one thing that is being overlooked in a lot of the discussion around weight is the distinction between rotational weight and non-rotational...and sprung versus unsprung weight. dropping unsprung, rotating weight (eg. wheels) is a lot different than dropping static, spring weight (back seat removal)

And to get anywhere close to the CF wheel weight you need to go to a forged wheel. HREs and Forgelines cost 6-8k a set in R sizing. Regardless of the replacement cost, how much Ford is charging for the R package makes it a real bargain for the wheels alone.

And this whole buy an R and sell the wheels business is pure silliness if you think long term. Who would want to buy one second hand without the CF wheels?

 

[Blk2015GT]

Frankly I think this is the "we dont have a huge stock of them so we're going to charge 2-3 times the cost to keep people away, and if someone is stupid enough to pay $30k they can gladly have a set"

The price will come down but realize it still won't be anywhere near cheap for CF wheels. CF is naturally expensive because of the materials and process; especially for wheels. I would fully expect $3-4k per wheel regular pricing. Still talking $12-16k for wheels no tires.

 

[AgentOrange]

Stop that check! Ford says carbon fiber wheels won’t cost $30,000

Read more: http://autoweek.com/article/car-new...on-fiber-wheels-wont-cost-30000#ixzz3hxZQJG5q
http://autoweek.com/article/car-news/stop-check-ford-says-carbon-fiber-wheels-wont-cost-30000

Article states: We talked to a Ford spokesman this morning and he denied that price, asking, “If the car is $60-some-thousand, how could the wheels possibly be 30K?”

 

[DruidBlack]

Its clear no one would think the wheels actually cost 30k on a 60k car, this is just retail pricing which can be set at any price basically. While this doesnt tell us what they will actually cost it does suggest even without a big mark up it's gonna be really expensive.

 

[fuhrius]

Stop that check! Ford says carbon fiber wheels won’t cost $30,000

Read more: http://autoweek.com/article/car-new...on-fiber-wheels-wont-cost-30000#ixzz3hxZQJG5q
http://autoweek.com/article/car-news/stop-check-ford-says-carbon-fiber-wheels-wont-cost-30000

Article states: We talked to a Ford spokesman this morning and he denied that price, asking, “If the car is $60-some-thousand, how could the wheels possibly be 30K?”

like I said in my first post...I don't think I believe the $30k number.

 

[Cruzinaround]

like I said in my first post...I don't think I believe the $30k number.

Carbon Revolution engineered the manufacturing process to save money on a mass produced carbon fiber wheel. And with the partnership with an OEM now... the process will only become cheaper and faster as they modify their facilities to ramp up production.

This is the beginning of other Manufacturers joining in on it. Ford took the first step. The rest will follow. Just like things have progressed with Magneride technology. These things will become more attainable at time goes on.

Its also not hard to believe that an even lighter variant of these wheels may come in the near future with different spoke designs as well.

The same can be said of Seibon with the Wing design. It's extremely similar to their Carbon Fiber offerings for the Nissan GTR. With the exception of the center pedestal the wings look very similar. It could be another OEM partnership exclusive, just like the Wheels are similar but with a different spoke count. Keeps it a little unique to the OEM.

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