DO NOT BUY VLAND LIGHTS!!!!!

[PLAYTYM]

Anyone ever had these or got any info on them and what they’re like??
Saw these for sale at Mars Performance in Victoria

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[geep81]

I wouldn't even buy Diode Dynamics. None of these people are testing the product they make like the manufacturer of the car does.

Don't buy aftermarket lights if you want them to last like your OEM ones is what the title of all these posts should really be IMO.

 

[Miked81]

Yup totally agree…..it’s just that you can’t buy red tail lights for Australia UNLESS they are aftermarket.

I'll trade you my red OE taillights for your OE white taillights if you still have them.

 

[ORRadtech]

You say they had a 12 month warranty and a year later they developed a problem. Did they fail before or after the 12 month mark? As harsh as it sounds, even 1 day after is out of warranty and they have no obligation.

 

[PKs]

You say they had a 12 month warranty and a year later they developed a problem. Did they fail before or after the 12 month mark? As harsh as it sounds, even 1 day after is out of warranty and they have no obligation.

Well actually in Australia it is not necessarily the warranty period. "Consumer Law" overides any manufacturers warranty in that the product replacement claim period lasts for a "reasonable" time. Meaning that if it is reasonable to expect an item to last say 5 years then that is the replacement or refundable period.

 

[MarkM]

I'll trade you my red OE taillights for your OE white taillights if you still have them.

They’re not inter changeable, Insuppose you could split them and swap the lenses/reflectors

 

[Miked81]

They’re not inter changeable, Insuppose you could split them and swap the lenses/reflectors

My buddy in my car club just traded with someone in Australia. He had no issues

 

[ORRadtech]

Well actually in Australia it is not necessarily the warranty period. "Consumer Law" overides any manufacturers warranty in that the product replacement claim period lasts for a "reasonable" time. Meaning that if it is reasonable to expect an item to last say 5 years then that is the replacement or refundable period.

Well, I don't know much, if anything, about Australian laws so I'll take your word for that.
I do wonder though if it's like many of our laws. The ones that are on the books but are more trouble than it's worth to pursue.
And, really, if the manufacturer only believes it has a year, or whatever, well, they should know, right?
Also, who determines what is "reasonable"? Is there an agency, an arbitrator or does one have to pursue legal action?
You've peaked my curiosity...

 

[GrabberBargeCaptain]

I get what you’re saying but I’m not scamming anyone…..the warranty was for a year and it was literally a year when they stopped working and all I wanted was a replacement set which I don’t think is too much to ask considering.

Oh no, I meant if I had to warranty everything I sold for a year. Wouldn’t make sense.
Not saying you’re scamming anyone!

 

[GrabberBargeCaptain]

Well actually in Australia it is not necessarily the warranty period. "Consumer Law" overides any manufacturers warranty in that the product replacement claim period lasts for a "reasonable" time. Meaning that if it is reasonable to expect an item to last say 5 years then that is the replacement or refundable period.

Who decides what’s reasonable? Do you have to petition the government to weigh in on it in this case or something?

 

[PKs]

Who decides what’s reasonable? Do you have to petition the government to weigh in on it in this case or something?

Well, I don't know much, if anything, about Australian laws so I'll take your word for that.
I do wonder though if it's like many of our laws. The ones that are on the books but are more trouble than it's worth to pursue.
And, really, if the manufacturer only believes it has a year, or whatever, well, they should know, right?
Also, who determines what is "reasonable"? Is there an agency, an arbitrator or does one have to pursue legal action?
You've peaked my curiosity...

ACC

Well, I don't know much, if anything, about Australian laws so I'll take your word for that.
I do wonder though if it's like many of our laws. The ones that are on the books but are more trouble than it's worth to pursue.
And, really, if the manufacturer only believes it has a year, or whatever, well, they should know, right?
Also, who determines what is "reasonable"? Is there an agency, an arbitrator or does one have to pursue legal action?
You've peaked my curiosity...

ACCC Australian competition and consumer commission would be the first place to contact but they will not resolve disputes. They will only contact the seller and advise on the consumer law in place. The laws are probably only worthwhile pursuing for expensive items like a car but the mere quotation of the consumer rights would often be enough for a seller to oblige.
Pursuit of the laws if challenged by the seller would likely mean chasing through the courts.

 

[PLAYTYM]

ACC

ACCC Australian competition and consumer commission would be the first place to contact but they will not resolve disputes. They will only contact the seller and advise on the consumer law in place. The laws are probably only worthwhile pursuing for expensive items like a car but the mere quotation of the consumer rights would often be enough for a seller to oblige.
Pursuit of the laws if challenged by the seller would likely mean chasing through the courts.

Yup hence why I’m cutting my loses and thinking of taking the light to an auto electrician to see if they can fix it…the right side still works fine it just the left indicator function that’s stopped.

 

[PKs]

Yup hence why I’m cutting my loses and thinking of taking the light to an auto electrician to see if they can fix it…the right side still works fine it just the left indicator function that’s stopped.

The same thing happened to my Exotic Pony Mods light soon after fitting. Just one side stopped flashing. Phoned Ray and he said it would be the new activator which plugs in between the light and the OEM wiring. He sent me a new one and all has been good for 5 or so years. I will never get rid of my OEM lights though, just in case.

 

[PLAYTYM]

The same thing happened to my Exotic Pony Mods light soon after fitting. Just one side stopped flashing. Phoned Ray and he said it would be the new activator which plugs in between the light and the OEM wiring. He sent me a new one and all has been good for 5 or so years. I will never get rid of my OEM lights though, just in case.

Unfortunately I think mine are more internal….the electrician tested the wiring either side of the connecting plug and both were working fine hence why he then said it has to be something within the light itself…..still tossing up whether to get the Mars Performance red lights (at least they’re in Melbourne) or try to fix my current ones

 

[ORRadtech]

ACC

ACCC Australian competition and consumer commission would be the first place to contact but they will not resolve disputes. They will only contact the seller and advise on the consumer law in place. The laws are probably only worthwhile pursuing for expensive items like a car but the mere quotation of the consumer rights would often be enough for a seller to oblige.
Pursuit of the laws if challenged by the seller would likely mean chasing through the courts.

I admit to being intrigued by this.
So this ACCC has the power to force a company to make repairs after the warranty by just saying x product should last y amount of time? How do they determine that?
The conundrum that comes to mind is car warranties. Example, Ford warranties their engines for 3 years/ 36k miles but Kia warranties their engines for 10 years/ 100k miles. Does that mean that Ford (and any other brand) should be covered for 10 years? And since Kia's is 10 years is it reasonable to think they should last longer?

Op, sorry to go off topic but this is a really strange concept for me...

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