Dealer Complaint (Bad Practice/Mark-Up/+++)

[Strokerswild]

i dont think this is the case for the new C8 ZO6...

I think that one is going to be hot for most of its run....

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[Ninjak]

i dont think this is the case for the new C8 ZO6...

In a article I read, GM has dropped the hammer on dealers doing shady things and ADM's especially on the Z06C8. It came from the very top that dealers ding this would lose their allocations on the vehicles, and would not receive future stock of such cars.

If you google it, you should find the article about it. Ford on the other hand has done nothing like this, though it was mention recently that they are doing this for the Lightning.

 

[oregongt350]

In a article I read, GM has dropped the hammer on dealers doing shady things and ADM's especially on the Z06C8. It came from the very top that dealers ding this would lose their allocations on the vehicles, and would not receive future stock of such cars.

If you google it, you should find the article about it. Ford on the other hand has done nothing like this, though it was mention recently that they are doing this for the Lightning.

Trust me Chevy dealers have their chosen ones. Good luck getting a Z06 in the first couple years. If your not a well heeled customer of a Chevy store, good luck. To say some form of ADM’s is only a Ford problem is ludicrous. ADM’s come in many forms not just $$ tacked on a invoice.

 

[cerbomark]

In a article I read, GM has dropped the hammer on dealers doing shady things and ADM's especially on the Z06C8. It came from the very top that dealers ding this would lose their allocations on the vehicles, and would not receive future stock of such cars.

If you google it, you should find the article about it. Ford on the other hand has done nothing like this, though it was mention recently that they are doing this for the Lightning.

This is true, friend got one and paid MSRP. he said dealer said they are not allowed to markup. So they said if you don t like car we ll buy it right back at full price. He got a factory delivery. Then it is used and rules don t apply, LOL

 

[cerbomark]

Trust me Chevy dealers have their chosen ones. Good luck getting a Z06 in the first couple years. If your not a well heeled customer of a Chevy store, good luck. To say some form of ADM’s is only a Ford problem is ludicrous. ADM’s come in many forms not just $$ tacked on a invoice.

probably also true. You won t pay more But you won t get one, LOL

 

[clg82]

This is true, friend got one and paid MSRP. he said dealer said they are not allowed to markup. So they said if you don t like car we ll buy it right back at full price. He got a factory delivery. Then it is used and rules don t apply, LOL

That's because they know they'll be able to turn it around in a short amount of time. I have a deposit in on a C8 ZO6, only worked on getting my wifes car thru them and they told me after my deposit and build they aren't allowed to sell above MSRP. Weren't willing to risk the stipulations that GM would put on them if anyone complained.

 

[Tomster]

I am expecting my dealer that I ordered in Sept from "may" try some crooked stuff so I have 3 others lined up that were collecting dust last 7 MTHS haha. All are discounted EB verts $3K +/-.

I will never pay MSRP for any mass market brand.

Not for a mustang GT they won't. You are safe.

 

[Tomster]

Canada offering $ 4-7K discounts on '21 GTs and saw l Mach 1s discounted.....these cars were made 1 year ago 22s are arriving...I just got another 2.5 K thrown in on top of my $3500 EB HP vert ....

US dealers are gonna lose a lot of customers....

Thats great for the GT section. Maybe they might get better use of that info.

 

[Tomster]

haha sorry this is gt500 $20 K above MSRP is fair then...my bad

No, this is the GT500 section and your info is useless here.

Edit: apples compared to oranges. Your GT is not a 500 and the deals you are making mean nothing here.

 

[Tomster]

I know my bad sorry everyone.... Ferrari dealer down the street is lose patience haha.

Is english your second language?

Edit:
Go make your deal. Then follow this link.....
Ferrarichat.com

And then take care. Bye

 

[clg82]

No, this is the GT500 section and your info is useless here.

Edit: apples compared to oranges. Your GT is not a 500 and the deals you are making mean nothing here.

Correct GT is not a 500.....the interiors are both shit tho, the GT is lighter not only in physical weight but also in the pocket book, throw a blower on the GT and some bolt ons and you'll be hanging with the 500 for half the price ESPECIALLY with the dealer markup on the 500....either way their both Furds so you're not getting much value for your money

 

[Dark Side]

Not for a mustang GT they won't. You are safe.

The dealer here has an upcharge on every single vehicle in the lot.

 

[Tomster]

Correct GT is not a 500.....the interiors are both shit tho, the GT is lighter not only in physical weight but also in the pocket book, throw a blower on the GT and some bolt ons and you'll be hanging with the 500 for half the price ESPECIALLY with the dealer markup on the 500....either way their both Furds so you're not getting much value for your money

You aren't hanging with a GT500 on a road course, I can guarantee that.

The solution always seems to slap a whipple on it, lol

 

[AllthePonies]

Since you are working both the 350 section as well as the 500 section at the same time, ill re-post my advice here for the sake of others.

The allocation and the car belong to the dealer until it is sold to the customer. If a contract is in place for the dealer to sell the specified car to you for a specific price and a deposit is given, then the dealership has to honor it. This has little to do with Ford corporate. Complaining to Ford is a good idea because they don't want this kind of behavior because it is bad for business and it appearance. Complaining to Ford over something like this would be like complaining to a manufacturer of generators when home depot jacks the price after a hurricane.

Any agreement with a dealership should be in a contract. That is why it is critical to get the details written down and agreed upon and if possible have it signed by all parties. You might not get the car, but you would get your deposit back and in a suit you could be awarded damages. Damages in this instance are that you pay whatever ADM it took to get the car as ordered and specified from another dealer somewhere else. If the contract is written correctly, any court would most likely decide in your favor. This may or may not include attorneys fees. Laws vary state to state, but for the most part it is basic contract law.

Everyone should remember that although there are excellent dealerships out there, there are others that are as slimy as could be and will have a hard time leaving money on the table if they can find a buyer who will pay more money.

The issue I see is ordering the car in the name of a customer against their wishes. Ford oftentimes requires an actual customer behind a dealer order. Thus, the dealer looks to be using the OP’s information to get a car for themselves. Seems sketchy at best.

I see on Bronco forums people talking about needing contracts with dealerships. I am not a contract lawyer, but it strikes me as odd to create to a contract for a car that the dealership isn’t guaranteed to receive since Ford is (more or less) in control of that. I guess you could pay the dealership a sum of money (consideration) to guarantee a certain price and delivery of a given car if it does actually show up. What happens if the buyer backs out though? Do they have to pay damages? This is awful lot of effort for something that you would have to go to court to try to enforce anyway. Maybe there are good form contracts out there for this sort of thing that I’m not aware of (no one has ever actually put a link to any in any of the forums).

It just doesn’t seem worth it to me though. I buy based on a relationship and competition. If a dealer doesn’t keep their word then I go somewhere else. It’s worked for me for a lot of years.

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