deal breakers

[Thed]

I'm not sure why so much blame is pointed at Microsoft. IIRC, they handle most of the hardware and the voice recognition, but Ford designs the HMI portion and functionality. It's not perfect, but it's not terrible either. The few vehicles I've been in and driven for extended periods of time have had zero issues with MFT. IMO, Consumer Reports and some rags put a bad taste in everyone's mouth about it, and it stuck.

This.

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[SStormtrooPer]

Please let me know another OS that works with such a wide variety of hardware and different applications that doesn't require patching. While not perfect Microsoft does a pretty good job.

Please let me know one device or application operating on Microsoft OS that works the way it is intended to.

Just because the OS is operable in a lot of applications doesn't excuse a multi-billion dollar company for how crappy it works.

And to those defending Microsoft -- there are other companies out there that would not have even worked on the project unless they were "given the reigns". MS is just as responsible for "adequately" fulfilling requirements on a system they knew was half-assed to begin with. They own their reputation and are accountable for their decisions. Not anyone else.

 

[JohnZiraldo]

Please let me know one device or application operating on Microsoft OS that works the way it is intended to.

Just because the OS is operable in a lot of applications doesn't excuse a multi-billion dollar company for how crappy it works.

And to those defending Microsoft -- there are other companies out there that would not have even worked on the project unless they were "given the reigns". MS is just as responsible for "adequately" fulfilling requirements on a system they knew was half-assed to begin with. They own their reputation and are accountable for their decisions. Not anyone else.

And now we return you to our regularly scheduled program...Mustang G6.

 

[SStormtrooPer]

And now we return you to our regularly scheduled program...Mustang G6.

Oh yeah that's right. The crappy infotainment system in the new Fords has nothing to do with the car's desirability :tsk:

Carry on.

 

[Norm Peterson]

I'm not sure why so much blame is pointed at Microsoft. IIRC, they handle most of the hardware and the voice recognition, but Ford designs the HMI portion and functionality. It's not perfect, but it's not terrible either. The few vehicles I've been in and driven for extended periods of time have had zero issues with MFT. IMO, Consumer Reports and some rags put a bad taste in everyone's mouth about it, and it stuck.

Because they're the 800-lb gorilla that basically dictates what most of us get to use.

Because even Microsoft's operating systems last barely 4 years before being superseded by something that's quite different (do you really think that MFT will be immune to this? Come back in about 5 years to either boast or listen to a few "I told you so's").

Because you should never be expected to put up with as much difficulty while driving as might reasonably be expected you should with a home system or laptop that if you get sufficiently frustrated with you can safely get up and walk away from on millisecond notice.


Norm

 

[nametoshowothers]

And now we return you to our regularly scheduled program...Mustang G6.

I agree back to mustang6g, now is not the time to complain why my ipad can't find anything with its maps, why it crashes daily, etc lets talk cars

 

[All-Or-Nothing]

Deal breaker for most will be price. Most people have a set budget...most are determined by the monthly payment.

I also have a set number of what I will pay per month and how much I am willing to put down to acheive that price. I also have the wife to consider. If I get a 2015 at least 2 of my current Mustangs will have to find new homes.

 

[Diggitydog]

The MFT infotainment is going to be a factor. I would like to say the MFT in my 2013 F150 has been smooth, but it really hasn't. Finally the 3.6 update is working as advertised. There are still a couple nibblets not performing but it's good enough. The infotainment is going to be a major factor in people's decision making. Like it or not the Mustang has to thrive in the digital age. A poor one is going to be a deal breaker.

 

[FStephenMasek]

The Pioneer AVICZ1 in my 2006 Explorer has always worked well. It has a touch screen, hard disc, backup camera, Bluetooth, XM radio, and XM Navtraffic. I've had it seven years, a very long time in the technology field. There is just no excuse for Ford or any other car maker not having something at least as good as that seven year old system. The only thing I do not use is the voice recognition, so I can't comment on that function.

 

[Norm Peterson]

Keep MFT optional, else deal-breaker.

What MFT consists of

Traffic, Directions and Information:
Traffic Alerts — provided by INRIX.
Map-based navigation application via an optional SD card
SD card navigation

Vehicle Health Report:
911 Assist:
Internet Connectivity:.
In-car Wi-Fi hot-spot capability through USB mobile broadband modem or USB-installed Aircard.
ATT USBConnect

Media features: 2 USB 2.0 inputs, MyFord Touch provides compatibility with USB-connected MP3 players.
SD card slot
RCA Jack input for Audio and Video
AM/FM radio, CD player, Sirius Satellite Radio, HD Radio capability.
Internet Media player equipped with new Podcast category.
Bluetooth Enhanced Data Rate audio support.

What I'd ever want or use

AM/FM radio, CD player


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Norm

 

[Dirk McGurck]

-Weighing more than the current car.

-Being longer, wider, taller than the current car.

-No manual/performance option, though Ford has proven with the GT500 and the Focus ST/Fiesta ST they actually like offering manuals-only with their performance models.

-Goofy or chintzy styling. I don't want a car that looks like a cartoon, like the Camaro.

-Useful trunk. Again, the Camaro has a useless trunk. My buddy's 370Z is useless, too.

-IRS

 

[Dirk McGurck]

If it doesn't meet these requirements, I will look at a 2012/2013 Boss 302, then at other cars.

 

[gojensen]

For me it will be price... which will be a result of what kind of power they get out of the I4... I'm already expecting it to cost a lot more than a Tesla Model S Performance here (which has 416hp and does 0-60 in 4.2s) due to tax levies for electric cars. (I'm also hoping it will be cheaper than a BMW 4-series)

Everything else is basically secondary as this will be the first Mustang ever "readily" available over here...

 

[Dirk McGurck]

That just goes to show the different markets. Here, the cheapest BMW is still more expensive than most Mustangs.

 

[let me ride]

I'm thinking there's a chance that the I4 will be the cheapest and least powerful of the bunch. Why give it an aggressive stock tune when the aftermarket can take care of that just fine? This allows them to keep it cheap and reliable, give it great MPG and the price/efficiency would be a big selling point for Europeans. The fact that its rumored to share the same engine as the next RS Focus could help keep costs down too.

I really hope they find a way to keep the base price close to what it is now. I know a bunch of potential V6 buyers (my younger bro for example) that would be priced out of it otherwise. I'd imagine outside of enthusiast forums price has to be the biggest deal breaker for Mustang buyers given how many V6's they sell

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