Database on engine failures; Voodoo vs Coyote

[JAJ]

Are you not aware of the changes?

As @Lorne34 posted, there's a risk that you're the one not aware of the changes. The Voodoo engine had "running changes" from one production lot to another starting in early 2017 and running to the end of production. The famous "Gen 2" is a myth. The engine produced, according to the official specs, the exact same performance (HP and torque) at the end of production as at the start.

Rings were changed multiple times, pistons changed, the fuel rail system was overhauled, the bearings on pretty much everything were changed more than once. There were 2 production lots a year and that means 10 different Voodoo's (all producing the same performance) over the 2015 to 2020 life of the GT350.

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[UpACurb]

As @Lorne34 posted, there's a risk that you're the one not aware of the changes. The Voodoo engine had "running changes" from one production lot to another starting in early 2017 and running to the end of production. The famous "Gen 2" is a myth. The engine produced, according to the official specs, the exact same performance (HP and torque) at the end of production as at the start.

Rings were changed multiple times, pistons changed, the fuel rail system was overhauled, the bearings on pretty much everything were changed more than once. There were 2 production lots a year and that means 10 different Voodoo's (all producing the same performance) over the 2015 to 2020 life of the GT350.

So we should be looking for Gen 7/8/9/10 cars?? lol

 

[Nate22]

As @Lorne34 posted, there's a risk that you're the one not aware of the changes. The Voodoo engine had "running changes" from one production lot to another starting in early 2017 and running to the end of production. The famous "Gen 2" is a myth. The engine produced, according to the official specs, the exact same performance (HP and torque) at the end of production as at the start.

Rings were changed multiple times, pistons changed, the fuel rail system was overhauled, the bearings on pretty much everything were changed more than once. There were 2 production lots a year and that means 10 different Voodoo's (all producing the same performance) over the 2015 to 2020 life of the GT350.

And ill ask you the same question. Where are you getting this information? Because i looked at where they were. And its pretty laughable.

 

[CANTWN4LSN]

Well I don't know about all the changes over the years. But the one thing I do know about my 2017 is there was clearly something changed because my first engine ended up with oil consumption of a quart per 1200 miles at the same mileage as my second engine (18,000 miles) that doesn't burn any and eventually went to a quart per 400 miles before replacement. A passenger separator was put on at the dealership when I got the car. Driven and broken in the same way both times. Always checked the oil level every 500 miles on both since I've followed this blog from inception and was aware of the issue before I even got the car. So either the rings were changed (what the Ford mechanic who replaced the engine told me was the difference) or the cylinder treatment was different but clearly something was defective and not user related.

 

[Nate22]

Well I don't know about all the changes over the years. But the one thing I do know about my 2017 is there was clearly something changed because my first engine ended up with oil consumption of a quart per 1200 miles at the same mileage as my second engine (18,000 miles) that doesn't burn any and eventually went to a quart per 400 miles before replacement. A passenger separator was put on at the dealership when I got the car. Driven and broken in the same way both times. Always checked the oil level every 500 miles on both since I've followed this blog from inception and was aware of the issue before I even got the car. So either the rings were changed (what the Ford mechanic who replaced the engine told me was the difference) or the cylinder treatment was different but clearly something was defective and not user related.

Im sure things were changed. Im not arguing that. I just would like to know what, with actual proof. Not just people on here repeating things they heard from someone else on here

 

[Lorne34]

I'm sure things were changed. I'm not arguing that. I just would like to know what, with actual proof. Not just people on here repeating things they heard from someone else on here

I know for a fact that the engine block used in the GT500 Predator engines was used in production of the Gen2 motor GT350's
I also know for a fact that sometime in 2018-2019 they stopped differentiating between the 350 and 350R engines as they both got the same unit.
Beyond that I am relying on what has been posted.
If you cannot believe what has been posted on the internet, then what can you believe?

 

[svttim]

Im sure things were changed. Im not arguing that. I just would like to know what, with actual proof. Not just people on here repeating things they heard from someone else on here

Its well documented right in this forum. You are incorrect about the Gen 2, You are correct there were running changes throughout the production of the car

https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/threads/2019-voodoo-changes.124665/

 

[svttim]

Well obviously a Ford engineer didn't call me on the phone and give me a list of specifics, and yes, from the internet.

Which part don't you believe? That the rings were changed, or that the differences are minor?

Both

 

[Nate22]

Its well documented right in this forum. You are incorrect about the Gen 2, You are correct there were running changes throughout the production of the car

People on this forum saying it, is not well documented, nor does it make it true

 

[svttim]

People on this forum saying it, is not well documented, nor does it make it true

Read the link above, well documented! Unless you think Ford is not reliable

 

[526 HRSE]

Both

So you think there were major changes from 2015 to 2020?

 

[Nate22]

Read the link above, well documented! Unless you think Ford is not reliable

Lol have you read it? The article is about the GT500 and the thread is just hearsay

 

[Lorne34]

 

[UpACurb]

So much tension…

I think the problem is it’s been a while since we had a good old fashioned GT350 vs GT500 or Mach 1 thread … and now we are getting restless and fighting with each other …

Who is with me … let’s go start a fight lol

 

[MAGS1]

So much tension…

I think the problem is it’s been a while since we had a good old fashioned GT350 vs GT500 or Mach 1 thread … and now we are getting restless and fighting with each other …

Who is with me … let’s go start a fight lol

I’ll start….

Dark Horse is better than the Mach

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