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Considering a Mach 1 [UK]

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Not a Mach1, but just a debadged GT did a faster lap than a M2 Competition.
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My statement should actually be that the Mustang is capable of more than you initially give it credit for.
Especially the Mach1 (with its better cooling) has already proven this on the Nürburgring.

It is also at least one size bigger (and heavier) than a BMW 1 Series/2 Series, especially when it comes to going on a longer trip.

That's the Mustang's biggest plus point, for me a coupé from BMW or Audi wouldn't have been an option, maybe a Mercedes.
 

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Just FYI, the gears in Tremec are very close to the pre 2017 face lift MT-82.
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ah, i did not realise that. Mind you, the earlier engines are a lower redline and limiter so we have to change gear sooner :crackup:
 
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Don't get me wrong, I think the Mustang Mach 1 is good, however to be great in my mind it needs the following:

+100hp, NA that's headers, cams and tune or lots of ethanol (£2.60 per litre in the UK). Or a charger. £8000+

For NA or centrifugal supercharger, 4.09 gears and torsen type diff - £3000+

Handling pack - £5000+

Into Cayman GTS money now when the car itself is still £50k 1-2 years old.
 

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M2 is way too expensive, you'll probably beat it on many smaller tracks with tuned Focus ST 😁
 

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Don't get me wrong, I think the Mustang Mach 1 is good, however to be great in my mind it needs the following:

+100hp, NA that's headers, cams and tune or lots of ethanol (£2.60 per litre in the UK). Or a charger. £8000+

For NA or centrifugal supercharger, 4.09 gears and torsen type diff - £3000+

Handling pack - £5000+

Into Cayman GTS money now when the car itself is still £50k 1-2 years old.
where will you be doing this driving ? I'm no great driver myself but if you need 580+hp on the road then er where are you driving? IoM ?
 
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I think my perception is calibrated by my daily driver having 600hp
 

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I didn't comment at first and it's been interesting to see how this discussion has unfolded, but I think if we are totally honest about it and take our Mustang blinkers off :

No one buys a Mustang based on a logical 'head' decision, or for performance, handling or build quality.

I think if most euro owners were honest, they would agree that you buy a Mustang on a 'heart' decision.

You have to 'want' a Mustang .. :like:

WD :like:
 

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I didn't comment at first and it's been interesting to see how this discussion has unfolded, but I think if we are totally honest about it and take our Mustang blinkers off :

No one buys a Mustang based on a logical 'head' decision, or for performance, handling or build quality.

I think if most euro owners were honest, they would agree that you buy a Mustang on a 'heart' decision.

You have to 'want' a Mustang .. :like:

WD :like:
certainly not build quality!
 

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...but try to put yours and your wifes stuff for a 1...2 week vacation into a M2... 😬🙈
 

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That would be totally perfect in principle ^
Possibly knocking on the door of £90k however ...

Now we are taking 911 S money!
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