Bullitt gossip thread

[Twin Turbo]

Your guess is as good as mine

I wonder if Ford would want to put themselves under pressure to hit certain anniversaries. S550 only just made it's own 50th birthday party (I'm talking about the actual April 17th date....there were cars on show, but nowhere near on sale).....and the GT350 only just made the 50th year with 137 '15MY cars made.

Ford would need to broker a rights deal with Warner Brothers for the Bullitt, too. I remember a few years back, there were rumours of a remake with Brad Pitt (if I recall correctly). If that had happened and the car was featured in the film, that would have been very cool. However, the rumours of the remake seem to have died off. That being said, back in the "ideation" stage of creating the S550, photos of Steve McQueen and the '68 Fastback featured in images around the studio, so Ford clearly recognises the importance of the film.

However, the Mach 1 rumour seemed stronger. I think that rumour broke around August last year, shortly after Ford re-registered the trademark. Of course, that could just be business as usual, as Ford still sell parts and regalia featuring the Mach 1 name.

Still, where there's smoke, there's often fire, and we've seen no smoke about Bullitt.....but we have a little Mach 1 smoke. For what it's worth

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[1320']

This is just kind of a..little fuzzy thought that occurred to me when I first saw a guard fastback with the optional 18's...that they were offering that combination as a sort of soft market test for a bullitt package.

My guess is a Bullitt package would be more appearance than anything else..maybe have the FRPP CAI/Tune as standard and could rate it at 450HP/405 TQ. All you'd need to do with the exhaust is have a H-pipe and the FRPP Touring mufflers on it...louder but not terribly so.

 

[Stam616]

I love that wheel. It is optional for GTs but rare to find.:ford:

I think there's a site called newtakeoffparts.com that has the wheels and tires for $1000 bucks and they come with the TPMS sensors. I may get a set and put winter tires on them next year. Or just try to get 17" so the tires are cheaper lol

 

[1320']

Your guess is as good as mine

I wonder if Ford would want to put themselves under pressure to hit certain anniversaries. S550 only just made it's own 50th birthday party (I'm talking about the actual April 17th date....there were cars on show, but nowhere near on sale).....and the GT350 only just made the 50th year with 137 '15MY cars made.

Ford would need to broker a rights deal with Warner Brothers for the Bullitt, too. I remember a few years back, there were rumours of a remake with Brad Pitt (if I recall correctly). If that had happened and the car was featured in the film, that would have been very cool. However, the rumours of the remake seem to have died off. That being said, back in the "ideation" stage of creating the S550, photos of Steve McQueen and the '68 Fastback featured in images around the studio, so Ford clearly recognises the importance of the film.

However, the Mach 1 rumour seemed stronger. I think that rumour broke around August last year, shortly after Ford re-registered the trademark. Of course, that could just be business as usual, as Ford still sell parts and regalia featuring the Mach 1 name.

Still, where there's smoke, there's often fire, and we've seen no smoke about Bullitt.....but we have a little Mach 1 smoke. For what it's worth

I personally think there is a bit more a flame behind the Mach 1 smoke than is being let on.

Ford is up to something..they don't just spend money on things without a significant amount of interest in future options. Ford specifically went to the trouble of producing a "race only" 5.2 CPC..it's not being used in the GT350R-C's, it's not being used in a N/A Cobra Jet...but they did the research and design on it, developed a stroker kit for it, so they do absolutely have plans for it somehow. It was rated at 580HP on race fuel, LT's, the CJ intake manifold and 12.5:1 Compression. Let's take 35 HP away for the LT's, 25 HP away for the race fuel, 15 HP for the CJ and 20 HP away for the compression bump. Add back on the Voodoo intake manifold to restore 10 of the HP the CJ took away.

That would leave a 495HP 5.2 CPC motor that would drive like a nice, smooth N/A Coyote, rev to a comfy 7,000 RPM and still return reasonable fuel economy, especially if pared with a 10 speed automatic.

Use the GT350 Tech Pack/CS seats finished in "ComfortWeave", unique gauge backgrounds, Track Pack/PP dash gauges (Water, Oil, Trans), launch control for the autos and the GT350 active exhaust. Have the Handling Pack standard with MRC optional.

Offer 4 "exclusive" Mach 1 colours-

Calypso Coral

Black Jade

Grabber Green

and Grabber Orange

I'd take a 5.2 CPC, 10 speed auto, Black Jade Mach 1 in a heartbeat!!!

 

[Twin Turbo]

That would leave a 495HP 5.2 CPC motor that would drive like a nice, smooth N/A Coyote, rev to a comfy 7,000 RPM and still return reasonable fuel economy, especially if pared with a 10 speed automatic.

Use the GT350 Tech Pack/CS seats finished in "ComfortWeave", unique gauge backgrounds, Track Pack/PP dash gauges (Water, Oil, Trans), launch control for the autos and the GT350 active exhaust. Have the Handling Pack standard with MRC optional.


I'd take a 5.2 CPC, 10 speed auto, Black Jade Mach 1 in a heartbeat!!!

Yep, all the pieces of the puzzle are there......let's just hope Ford uses them

Oh, and I'd take mine in Grabber Blue or Ingot Silver (sorry to add to your list!) with a black....or glass! roof

 

[Grimace427]

I personally think there is a bit more a flame behind the Mach 1 smoke than is being let on.

Ford is up to something..they don't just spend money on things without a significant amount of interest in future options. Ford specifically went to the trouble of producing a "race only" 5.2 CPC..it's not being used in the GT350R-C's, it's not being used in a N/A Cobra Jet...but they did the research and design on it, developed a stroker kit for it, so they do absolutely have plans for it somehow.

IMO that engine was just a mildly updated N/A CJ engine, which was already 5.2 liters thanks to it's 3.7" bore. Not sure what you meant by stroker kit, the extra displacement is 100% from the bore diameter increase.

I see nothing from the Ford Performance engines that suggests anything that could see production.

 

[1320']

IMO that engine was just a mildly updated N/A CJ engine, which was already 5.2 liters thanks to it's 3.7" bore. Not sure what you meant by stroker kit, the extra displacement is 100% from the bore diameter increase.

I see nothing from the Ford Performance engines that suggests anything that could see production.

Well you're a killjoy....

Probably right, but still a killjoy.

 

[Twin Turbo]

Yeah, we don't need that kind of negativity around here

 

[Grimace427]

Well you're a killjoy....

Probably right, but still a killjoy.

Oh come on, it's still a badass engine.


Not like the engines we get are pieces of crap or anything. :ford:

 

[Bullitt]

IMO that engine was just a mildly updated N/A CJ engine, which was already 5.2 liters thanks to it's 3.7" bore. Not sure what you meant by stroker kit, the extra displacement is 100% from the bore diameter increase.

I see nothing from the Ford Performance engines that suggests anything that could see production.

Well we know from the recent UAW contract that they plan to update and produce more 5.2 Voodoo motors so they'll either make an updated GT350 for many years, or we'll see it in a more affordable car hence the engine changes and production changes.

 

[Bullitt2065]

Ok with the 2017 Mustang color chart released and Guard gone it is time to start a gossip/wish list for the 2018 50th anniversary Bullitt Mustang. Makes sense for Ford to pull the green shade (Guard) for a year before the Bullitt returns.

Predictions:

#1: Ford will continued to stick with Dark Highland Green as they did in 01/08/09 instead of using the original Highland Green.:doh:

#2: V8 based with a stiffer suspension

#3: unique exhaust sound with possible GT350 activated tips.

#4: auto and manual tranny

Believe it or not, the shades of green on the 2001 Bullitt and the 2008/09 Bullitts were actually different, and both were a bit different from what came on cars in 1968.

If another Bullitt is offered, there is NO WAY it comes with an automatic.

 

[Twin Turbo]

If another Bullitt is offered, there is NO WAY it comes with an automatic.

But if Steve McQueen was still alive, he might appreciate a nice new 10-speed auto

 

[Bullitt2065]

I hope they at least offer highland green. If they decide to do a Bullitt, I hope they dont ruin it and have "Bullitt" in 500 different places.

Bullitt is synonymous with Dark Highland Green. There is LITERALLY a 0% chance that they would make a Bullitt and not offer DHG on it, and at this point there is also a 0% chance they would offer DHG on something that wasn't a Bullitt.

 

[Bullitt2065]

How likely do you guys think a Bullitt actually is? I'm trying to think about past history to predict the future. The Bullitt came first for the SN95, then the Mach 1 after. Mach 1 also wasn't introduced on the Mustang until 1969. So sticking with past strategy and if they want to hit all the 50th anniversaries they can, they'd do a Bullitt for 2018 and then a Mach 1 for 2019 right before the rumored overhaul in 2020. Introducing it that late isn't out of the question either since the last Mach 1 was introduced right before the new 2005s came out.

As the owner of a 2008 Bullit, I'm on the fence about whether I would want to see a new Bullitt in 2018, but I'm leaning towards thinking I would like to see another one.

Here is my rationale for why I believe Ford will NOT build another Bullitt, though:

1. For both the 2001 and 2008/09 versions, neither car achieved the sales targets Ford had set out for. For 2008, Ford planned to sell 7700 Bullitts. With the recession hitting, they only sold 5808 in 2008. It was so few that they made a last minute decision to roll the remaining cars into a second production year. Even after two years, they only sold 6624 in total, more than 1000 fewer than planned. For 2001 models, ford planned to sell 6500 Bullitts and only sold 5582. So with two model runs failing to hit their targets, perhaps they'll forego a third try.

2. In order to make a Bullitt, Ford has to pay royalties to Warner Brothers, who own the rights to the movie Bullitt. I've heard they are notoriously difficult to deal with and they have to deal with them in every facet of the car, not just building and selling them. If they want to put the car in their 2018 brochure, they have to get permission, if they want to make a poster, they have to get permission, and so on and so on. The fact that they requested to use my car in the 2015 Mustang unveiling in Dearborn was a HUGE shock due to these rules.

3. With the rumors now swirling that S650 will be coming two year early, I just don't think there is enough time for Ford to create all of the performance variants we've heard rumored. We've heard GT500, Mach 1, Bullitt and more rumored and with only two more model years of unannounced product to go before the 2020 model year, I'm not sure there is room for all of those variants. That said, I suspect the Bullitt would be the odd man out, if they had to cut one.

 

[Bullitt2065]

But if Steve McQueen was still alive, he might appreciate a nice new 10-speed auto

Nah. It better be three pedals only, or I'll be disappointed. Ford makes these special performance variants for true enthusiasts. It's the reason the Focus RS and ST models and GT350 are manual only, even though they might sell more if they also offered an automatic.

The Bullitt is for enthusiasts, not just old guys who want to go cruising.

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