Blown differential or axle?

[daltron]

Get the dealership to install a new clutch and get the other shop to pay for it. If they won't, sue them. Heck, even use your dated posts on this forum as part of your evidence that it was never right.

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[Road Dog]

I'm glad it wasn't the trans, or the differential.

 

[seth21w]

The clutch is good news get a new ford clutch and slave everything it needs and contact a lawyer for the other shop! Sorry this happened dude it sucks i know but once its done right you should get a long life out of it.

 

[SD_GT]

Get the dealership to install a new clutch and get the other shop to pay for it. If they won't, sue them. Heck, even use your dated posts on this forum as part of your evidence that it was never right.

How would I go about doing that? The lawsuit part. I don't want the dealer to install an OEM unit, I want an RXT in there.

I'm glad it wasn't the trans, or the differential.

Me too, now to figure out the clutch situation.

The clutch is good news get a new ford clutch and slave everything it needs and contact a lawyer for the other shop! Sorry this happened dude it sucks i know but once its done right you should get a long life out of it.

The problem with that is that I don't want another OEM clutch set-up. I paid for the McLeod and want the twin disc RXT for when I eventually supercharge the car. I don't want to deal with another OEM clutch going out on me.

My current plan of attack is to stop by the shop on Monday, talk to the owner and see what he's got to say. If it's not going anywhere, I'll be contacting a lawyer and going from there. I'm just trying to avoid getting f*cked and paying twice for the same clutch and labor.

 

[daltron]

No need for a lawyer, small claims court is your friend.

 

[Ecoboosted]

Man sorry to hear this. Sucks to have a nice car and not be able to drive it. Hopefully the shop will do you right and fix their screw up and you don't have to pay anything more out of pocket. Good luck

 

[BottleFedStang]

The lawyer is going to cost you as much as another clutch. Like someone else stated, small claims court is the best way to go if the owner isn't willing to back his work.

 

[SD_GT]

Well, I've got one hell of an update for you guys. The car's all torn apart again and according the shop I need a brand new clutch. I stopped by the shop about an hour ago and sent photos to McLeod and then received a call from Bryan and Billy of McLeod racing and according to them, the clutch is in great condition and looks to be broken in perfectly. This is where it gets tricky, the boys over at McLeod said that the problem is likely in the trans or the rear end. The shop that did the install says I need a new clutch and Ford also said it was likely the clutch.

So, I guess the next step is to have the shop put it all back together and tow it to Ford and see if they can diagnose an issue in the driveline. The car shifts fine so I'm guessing it's something in the rear and not in the transmission. Fun stuff, gonna pay for the labor to tear the clutch out again and end up back at square one.

Photos of the clutch from today:

 

[keltymd]

from what I can see the clutch does look ok. Trans or rear end would be easy to diagnose. Put it on a lift with the tranny in put it in gear. no driveshaft spin the tranny is dead. See those nice vent holes in the bottom of the bell housing great place to put an inspection scope to see if the input shaft is spinning or not. if it is and the driveshaft isnt spinning with it in gear the clutch works and the tranny is dead.

IMHO I would have thought the dealer or the shop you got it at would ahve done that before all the work of tearing it down

 

[SD_GT]

from what I can see the clutch does look ok. Trans or rear end would be easy to diagnose. Put it on a lift with the tranny in put it in gear. no driveshaft spin the tranny is dead. See those nice vent holes in the bottom of the bell housing great place to put an inspection scope to see if the input shaft is spinning or not. if it is and the driveshaft isnt spinning with it in gear the clutch works and the tranny is dead.

IMHO I would have thought the dealer or the shop you got it at would ahve done that before all the work of tearing it down

That's my own fault for taking the dealership's advice.

I took my SA's advice to just take it back to the shop instead of having them look at it since they assumed it was more than likely the clutch. Now the shop that did the install is tired of seeing me and I'm tired of seeing them but McLeod confirmed that everything looks normal and the shop did the install correctly aside from bleeding the air out of the clutch line. I just want to pay the shop to put it back together and then tow it to Ford and actually have them do something this time.

 

[Reds197]

Sorry for all the problems. I honestly cant believe how stupid everyone has been you are dealing with. There are 5 things to look at. The clutch, the trans, the driveshaft, the diff and then a half shaft. In that order. How f'n hard can it be?

 

[VOODOO 6G]

You can check the rear diff and trans with it apart, don't put it all back together until you know what's wrong. I didn't read everything in here but I'd say you broke the ring gear or something in the rear end or possibly broken tail shaft in the trans. Put the trans in gear with it on the floor. Spin the input shaft, does the tail shaft spin? Try to hold the tail shaft and stop it from spinning(this is a little tough, you can put the drive shaft in to make it easier to hold on to. If the output shaft spins, you don't hear any weird noises, and you can't stop the out put shaft the trans should be fine. Move to the rear end, by hand spin both tires forward at the same time, listen and feel, then stop one tire at a time, listen and feel.

 

[Road Dog]

I'm not clear on how the dealership came to the conclusion the clutch was at fault? They didn't do a teardown. That happened at the shop that originally installed the clutch?

Now with the trans out, diagnostics on the transmission, driveshaft, axles and differential are easy to do. Did the shop do anything along that line?

 

[SD_GT]

Sorry for all the problems. I honestly cant believe how stupid everyone has been you are dealing with. There are 5 things to look at. The clutch, the trans, the driveshaft, the diff and then a half shaft. In that order. How f'n hard can it be?

Thanks man. Unfortunately too hard for me, I'm a weekend warrior - I can install bolt-ons but this is beyond my skill level. :(

You can check the rear diff and trans with it apart, don't put it all back together until you know what's wrong. I didn't read everything in here but I'd say you broke the ring gear or something in the rear end or possibly broken tail shaft in the trans. Put the trans in gear with it on the floor. Spin the input shaft, does the tail shaft spin? Try to hold the tail shaft and stop it from spinning(this is a little tough, you can put the drive shaft in to make it easier to hold on to. If the output shaft spins, you don't hear any weird noises, and you can't stop the out put shaft the trans should be fine. Move to the rear end, by hand spin both tires forward at the same time, listen and feel, then stop one tire at a time, listen and feel.

The trans is out of the car.

I'm not clear on how the dealership came to the conclusion the clutch was at fault? They didn't do a teardown. That happened at the shop that originally installed the clutch?

Now with the trans out, diagnostics on the transmission, driveshaft, axles and differential are easy to do. Did the shop do anything along that line?

They said their master tech did a couple tests before pulling the car in and said skip the diagnostic and recommended I take it straight back to the shop under the impression that it was a faulty install.

The shop that has the car now hates me haha. They don't seem willing to work with me at all. They're only interested in throwing a new clutch in and getting the car off their property. They claim the clutch is shot but everyone else I've spoken to says it's just fine. I'm stuck in the middle of a bunch of BS at this point.

 

[SD_GT]

I've got a friend who works for a major clutch company that told me that the root of my issues may be the TOB. His theory is that the slave cylinder isn't releasing completely thus causing the issues I'm having. What do you guys think? The guy's great at what he does but even he's stumped.

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