Best tire setup for cornerning

[Varekai]

Don't waste your $$$ on the MT street comps, mine were so bad I took em off early. If handling is important to you, you will hate em.

Ditto. Once you start doing some upgrades and make more power they don't have shit for traction.

I'm running a 19x9.5" square on 285/35's. Think I'll up to a 40 height next round on either MPSS or DWS 06's

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[Chad11491]

I vote for a 275-40R19 square set up on 9.5" wheels wrapped in Michelin Pilot $uper $ports.

lmao, i lost it at the $$ . well done sir! :cheers:

 

[SubZombie]

Best setup for cornering is a square setup. 275 square is a really good choice only being inferior to a 285 square

Really depends imo. If the max width the car can take in the rear is the same as the front then go for it. However, if you can put a wider tire in the rear then do it. The squared setup feels more balanced when you aren't putting any power down, staggered will often be more balanced on a RWD putting the power down through the turn where it is the most important - where the squared setup will be more likely to oversteer.

That said, as a daily driver a squared setup will probably feel more fun as it is much easier to make the car oversteer.

 

[CommyO]

Another thread on this in subforum
http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60997

 

[F0J]

I'm currently sorting this out for my car too.

So assuming that "spirited back road driving" is 6-8/10ths driving.. probably over-braking on turn entry and having a little fun on exit.. I'd still say: go square for the simplicity.

Make sure the tire you buy holds a bit of grip in the rain and in the cool.

Heck, if you like the PZERO NERO A/S you could start there but on a wider size.

There are quite a few options for wheels+tires (lucky us!). You'll want to consider budget ($$$!!!), wear life, availability, weight, diameter, if it has an impact on the rest of the car (eg. over-grip, clearance issues, etc.). Some of the combos discussed on this forum are "tried and true" and I would stick with one of them. Being a trailblazer on some weird fitment can turn into a headache.

 

[Coolmanfoo]

I'm currently sorting this out for my car too.

So assuming that "spirited back road driving" is 6-8/10ths driving.. probably over-braking on turn entry and having a little fun on exit.. I'd still say: go square for the simplicity.

Make sure the tire you buy holds a bit of grip in the rain and in the cool.

Heck, if you like the PZERO NERO A/S you could start there but on a wider size.

There are quite a few options for wheels+tires (lucky us!). You'll want to consider budget ($$$!!!), wear life, availability, weight, diameter, if it has an impact on the rest of the car (eg. over-grip, clearance issues, etc.). Some of the combos discussed on this forum are "tried and true" and I would stick with one of them. Being a trailblazer on some weird fitment can turn into a headache.

Well because I bought the absolute cheapest gt ford had to offer I onlyou have 18 inch wheels. So I think I need to upgrade those to at least 19 in order to fit a more performance oriented tire. My budget for new wheels and tires is $1300 comfortably and around 1500 if it was an amazing setup.

I'm surprised at the reaction to the Mt comps. But thank you for the informatiom, I feel like I dodged a bullet there. And yes that's exactly how I'd describe my spirited driving.

As far as replacement budget goes. I drive about 10k miles a year with my gt. I'd probably have to replace performance tires about once a year and I'd like to keep that less than 800. Also I live in California so I have no issue running summer tires all day long. Not like it's ever going to rain here anyway!

 

[Aarron_M]

So assuming that "spirited back road driving" is 6-8/10ths driving.. probably over-braking on turn entry and having a little fun on exit.. I'd still say: go square for the simplicity.

I've always considered spirited back road driving to be 8-9/10ths, still braking correctly and apexing turns, while staying between the yellow and white lines.

 

[P4RKER]

Just a heads up a set of 4 super sports will run you over $1200 mounted. If you are looking for new wheels also you will most likely need to up your budget.

 

[NightmareMoon]

Just a heads up a set of 4 super sports will run you over $1200 mounted. If you are looking for new wheels also you will most likely need to up your budget.

True, MPSS cost like $300 each in 19" sizes (haven't checked 18" lately), but they should also last a lot longer than 10k miles, so you may break even or come out ahead in cost/mile. Michelin has a 30k mile warranty IIRC.

 

[F0J]

The 18x8" that we both have (non-PP base GT) are heavy and small. There are reasons to stick with 18" wheels (competitive tire options, price) but they can look a little weird. For you application and budget, you could get away with cheaper 19" wheels and they'll look pretty good too.

Talking about X/10ths driving is relative. When I say 9/10ths driving there is a very real chance that I will lose control and that is not something I want to do on a public road. I will never ever push a non-purpose built race car past 9/10ths. 8/10ths is like, my driving will likely not get me into trouble but the consequences of mechanical failure might be a more severe. 6/10ths is like, OK I'm getting to know the car and I'll push it but I'm never "uncomfortable" with the grip.

As for the OP'S budget. It's a little low. Track tire budgets are 1500$/day haha.

 

[daltron]

Ignoring suspension tuning and understeer vs oversteer, another thing to consider is regardless of square or staggered, these big, front heavy cars LOVE a wider front tire. You will corner fine with a staggered setup if the front is wide. I went a best 1.23 on my favorite freeway onramp with MPSS 295 squared and last night did 1.25 with 295/325 R888's. Now granted, the R888's are a much stickier tire, but something to note too is for that run my R888's weren't up to temp and they had a few PSI too much.

 

[Rypkr937]

Why is a square setup advocated for cornering? And with this new news to me - why did Ford give us staggered on power packs?

Edit - nevermind. Just saw the whole thread on square vs staggered.

 

[Hack]

Ignoring suspension tuning and understeer vs oversteer, another thing to consider is regardless of square or staggered, these big, front heavy cars LOVE a wider front tire. You will corner fine with a staggered setup if the front is wide. I went a best 1.23 on my favorite freeway onramp with MPSS 295 squared and last night did 1.25 with 295/325 R888's. Now granted, the R888's are a much stickier tire, but something to note too is for that run my R888's weren't up to temp and they had a few PSI too much.

Sorry, but you versus the Ford engineers - I pick their decision as being more trustworthy.

 

[daltron]

Sorry, but you versus the Ford engineers - I pick their decision as being more trustworthy.

Me vs the Ford engineers on what exactly?

 

[F0J]

Sorry, but you versus the Ford engineers - I pick their decision as being more trustworthy.

Ford can have really bad reasons to pick one design over another. "It looks better" .. "Fuel Economy" .. "Easy to Fix/Warranty" .. "Cheaper to scale" etc.

If a club of track rats say "do this" and Ford says "do that", I would follow the track rat advice every time.

The OP isn't looking for the car to handle one way or another, he already drives on a square setup and given his budget, it'll be easiest to stick square.

The "best setup for cornering" costs a bit more than 1500$.

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