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[SLVRBACK]

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[Fulcrum]

The amount of misinformation in this thread and the incredulous people posting it is preposterous.

Facts (posted over and over on these forums from reputable sources, including FORD)

-MT82 is a stout unit that can handle BOOST (albeit on an upgraded clutch)
-MT82 in the latest iteration is far superior than the AUTO in terms of reliability and upgradeability.
-Manual transmission is indeed dwindling in numbers, not because it's "old redundant tech" like some of you are saying.
It's actually dwindling due to the same reason the average IQ level is decreasing, less critical thinking and more accepting what is given to you.
-MT82 is rated to higher power/torque levels than the AUTO.

Freeagent, you are absolutely right - it's a matter of preference, however uneducated preference is what causes such situations where the user is completely misinformed of the facts.

Enjoy driving your appliance.

 

[SLVRBACK]

The amount of misinformation in this thread and the incredulous people posting it is preposterous.

Facts (posted over and over on these forums from reputable sources, including FORD)

-MT82 is a stout unit that can handle BOOST (albeit on an upgraded clutch)
-MT82 in the latest iteration is far superior than the AUTO in terms of reliability and upgradeability.
-Manual transmission is indeed dwindling in numbers, not because it's "old redundant tech" like some of you are saying.
It's actually dwindling due to the same reason the average IQ level is decreasing, less critical thinking and more accepting what is given to you.
-MT82 is rated to higher power/torque levels than the AUTO.

Freeagent, you are absolutely right - it's a matter of preference, however uneducated preference is what causes such situations where the user is completely misinformed of the facts.

Enjoy driving your appliance.

LOL

 

[Free Agent]

Freeagent, you are absolutely right - it's a matter of preference, however uneducated preference is what causes such situations where the user is completely misinformed of the facts.

Enjoy driving your appliance.

I will, you do the same. I won't be upset if you take me on the twisty tracks if you're not upset when I take you at the strip. ;)

 

[Free Agent]

Exactly this was my point. My wife can jump in a Automatic Mustang and hit all the numbers from the magazine's all day long.

I prefer having the ability and knowledge to beat those numbers with a manual.

Hey no problem. Just understand at the 1/4 mile track it is often based on consistency and ability to repeat a time again and again race after race, not post a hero number then never be able to repeat that again. There is a reason automatics are what are run in drag racing.

We can all hang out together, its okay.

 

[KGrGunMan]

I won't be upset if you take me on the twisty tracks if you're not upset when I take you at the strip. ;)

If we're both in the same car, are you confident you're faster than me on the strip?

I'm confident about the twisty's.

(I know this wasn't aimed at me, but I'm a flawed person and I'm bored with nothing to do right now :( )

 

[Free Agent]

If we're both in the same car, are you confident you're faster than me on the strip?

Only way to find out is if we line 'em up. Palm Springs is a bit far drive for me though. ;)

I'd love to take my stock '15 Mustang GT while new with just 3.55's up against a stock 3.73 geared manual GT at the strip. Would be fun. Hope I get a chance.

 

[Brent302]

Hey no problem. Just understand at the 1/4 mile track it is often based on consistency and ability to repeat a time again and again race after race, not post a hero number then never be able to repeat that again. There is a reason automatics are what are run in drag racing.

We can all hang out together, its okay.

Never said I wasn't consistent [emoji106]

I'll just leave these here...



"William Tyler Jenkins*(December 22, 1930 – March 29, 2012),*nicknamed*"Grumpy" or "The Grump", was an engine builder and*drag racer. Between 1965 and 1975, he won a total of thirteen NHRA events. Most of these wins were won with a four-speed*manual transmission. In 1972 he recorded 250 straight passes without missing a*shift."

Maybe he was just posting hero numbers....

 

[Free Agent]

Never said I wasn't consistent [emoji106]

I'll just leave these here...



"William Tyler Jenkins*(December 22, 1930 – March 29, 2012),*nicknamed*"Grumpy" or "The Grump", was an engine builder and*drag racer. Between 1965 and 1975, he won a total of thirteen NHRA events. Most of these wins were won with a four-speed*manual transmission. In 1972 he recorded 250 straight passes without missing a*shift."

Maybe he was just posting hero numbers....

Cool stuff. Grumpy was the man too. But if Grumpy lined up with me stock '15 GT 3.55 auto vs. stock '15 3.73 manual, I wouldn't back down. ;)

Of course he'd probably school me out of the hole. (If he were living still) But you never know…………


There is room for both transmissions out there guys and gals. Choose what you want and don't judge others on their choices. And there is a lot more to drag racing than just shifting.

 

[scottpe]

Never said I wasn't consistent [emoji106]

Even with perfect shifting of the manual every time, there are inherent advantages of a modern automatic transmission that simply give them an advantage, especially during the launch, if using sticky tires. It's boring physics stuff having to do with torque multiplication and such, but it's true.

For us manual drivers, the best insurance is to simply make sure we're packing more horsepower than the auto guy we're lining up against so we can make up the difference on the big end. ;)

 

[Brent302]

Even with perfect shifting of the manual every time, there are inherent advantages of a modern automatic transmission that simply give them an advantage, especially during the launch, if using sticky tires. It's boring physics stuff having to do with torque multiplication and such, but it's true.

For us manual drivers, the best insurance is to simply make sure we're packing more horsepower than the auto guy we're lining up against so we can make up the difference on the big end. ;)

At least we get launch control lol

 

[scottpe]

At least we get launch control lol

Indeed! I'm looking forward to playing around with that feature!

 

[scottpe]

Btw, I just want to reiterate that my comments about the advantages/disadvantages of manual vs auto for drag racing are mostly based on running drag tires with good traction. On street tires, I think the inherent differences will be far less magnified and driver skill (along with the Launch Control feature for he manual) will be much more of a factor. EDIT: yeah, I realize that using driver skill and Launch Control in the same sentence is a bit of an oxymoron, but hopefully you guys get it. ;)

So if you run 'em like you brung 'em, may the best driver win! ;)

 

[Free Agent]

For us manual drivers, the best insurance is to simply make sure we're packing more horsepower than the auto guy we're lining up against so we can make up the difference on the big end.

And we auto owners never mod of course. ;) (All in good fun.)

I think it would be fun for a lot of '15 owners to meet up and have a friendly competition at a 1/4 mile track. I make it to a regional event every few years for GTO's and its always a good time to race against each other. As I said before, there is a whole lot more to drag racing than just shifting or letting your car shift for you.

 

[Brent302]

And we auto owners never mod of course. ;) (All in good fun.)

I think it would be fun for a lot of '15 owners to meet up and have a friendly competition at a 1/4 mile track. I make it to a regional event every few years for GTO's and its always a good time to race against each other. As I said before, there is a whole lot more to drag racing than just shifting or letting your car shift for you.

I've had my fun with drag racing. If I do intend to torture my LE I'll be looking more into a track experience.

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