Anyone Else want a Turbo Inline Six?

[gj]

you guys in the USA really did miss out big time over there
I've had all sort of v8's since the late 70's from Windsors of all kinds to 11 sec Cleveland Falcons (Australian) to the current Coyote
Driven all the muscle car era big blocks but they really have nothing on the Australian Barra 4.0 Turbo inline 6
With little mods the power and torque id unbelievable and the sky is the limit with these things, super strong bottom ends stock

https://www.whichcar.com.au/tv/why-is-the-ford-barra-motor-so-good

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[shogun32]

Get on Ford's ass and get the Barra stateside then. I want it on my desk Monday morning.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-AUSTR...455619?hash=item3d98234e03:g:5XUAAOSwbcBd20e7

a pile of them sitting in California.

 

[Beano]

This was my 2006 F6 Tornado FPV Ute back in 2007, after I had Nizpro do some work on it, final result was very close close to 400rwkw, was one crazy SOB, certainly pulled like a mofo. The only issue I have with these engines are the fact that they don’t like revving past 6500rpm, which makes for quite a narrow rpm band to handle that much torque.

Yeah, they are strong engines, but damn, they’re harsh near the top. With that said, I have seen a few making 1,000rwkw ....

This was the very first dyno-pull after some upgrades, doing 500hp/360kw the wheels, at 16psi. A few tunes later, we were at 397rwkw at ~18psi, they do make for fun cars, that’s for sure...

 

[Hack]

You went from a circular argument to a straw man argument. No one is saying that boost plus displacement won’t perform better than boost alone. No one is saying that displacement won’t increase power and torque all other things being equal. The argument is boost/tech versus displacement and the result of more torque and power is the same. Ergo, one can replace the other.

Of course, given an open checkbook, give me boost, displacement, and high flow heads. You wind up with something like mercury marine’s 9 liter twin-turbo Dohc 32 valve monster that makes 1350 hp on pump gas.

Like I said previously I think a small engine with boost and hybrid system is great for regular commuter cars.

For a fun car that I would want to use on the road course, I by far prefer a large naturally aspirated engine.

 

[vanquishvzla]

i want my mustangs V8... always... i don't care how awesome that inline 6 turbo is... i want my mustang V8...

for me, buying an ecoboost mustang is dumb, if i wanted a 4 cyl turbo, i'll go with a focus RS...

now, if you offer me something else with that engine... something like an AWD/I6T with a good automatic or manual trans... i'm totally in...

AWD sedan + that barra engine + A10 trans = WIN

 

[vanquishvzla]

Sooo...how about bring the Australian Falcon stateside...

can't find anything...

but for this:

I'm in!!!!

 

[Beano]

Ford Australia manufacturing has stopped. You can’t buy any new Falcons. The one listed above was an FPV GT XR8, superseded by the FGX XR8....that black 2014 FPV shown above though had by far the most aggressive and best-looking front fascia....the last FGX models were a bit bland compared to that ;)

I was lucky enough to have bought a new Dec 2015 FGX XR8, in white - it sits in the garage next to my Stang. A beautiful car in its own right, came factory-supercharged. Engine is known as the Miami here Down Under.

 

[Hack]

can't find anything...

but for this:

I'm in!!!!

There were some great looking Falcons over the years and I wish Ford would have made a muscular looking sedan like that here.

 

[vanquishvzla]

to me, that will be the perfect combination... i don't want any other engine on a mustang than a V8... you can give me 3 different V8 options if you want, but no 4 or 6 cyl...

imagine a FORD equivalent of the 4 door z06 cadillac has... the cts-v... but AWD...

 

[engineermike]

To the v8 “traditionalists”, keep in mind the standard engine in the first mustang was an in-line 6.

 

[engineermike]

.... There's always been a v8 option.

not always...but that’s not the point. The point is that saying or implying that it must have a v8 to be a mustang isn’t true, and to a true traditionalist an in-line 6 is just as traditional as a v8..

 

[engineermike]

Yes of course...1974....but that wasn’t the point.

 

[Hack]

not always...but that’s not the point. The point is that saying or implying that it must have a v8 to be a mustang isn’t true, and to a true traditionalist an in-line 6 is just as traditional as a v8..

My opinion is that the straight 6 was for people who didn't care about the engine in the car. The straight six was for non-performance people.

The V8 in the Mustang has always been an option for people who like the V8 and want a V8.

So I don't think there's anything traditional about the straight six. It was just a convenient entry level engine for people who wanted an inexpensive Mustang.

I have no problem with Ford selling an electric Mustang in Europe if that's really what people want there. I suspect that there are many frustrated people in Europe sick of the unreasonable ICE hatred just like there are in America, though. If the government makes the V8 illegal, there might be a lot fewer people who want a high performance Mustang. Might as well make an Escort if it's going to be electric. There's no need for the traditional Mustang shape anymore if the V8 is illegal.

 

[engineermike]

I’m not arguing that a turbo in-line 6 should replace the v8 as the top engine. Not sure if anyone is.

 

[bootlegger]

I have no problem with Ford selling an electric Mustang in Europe if that's really what people want there. I suspect that there are many frustrated people in Europe sick of the unreasonable ICE hatred just like there are in America, though. If the government makes the V8 illegal, there might be a lot fewer people who want a high performance Mustang. Might as well make an Escort if it's going to be electric. There's no need for the traditional Mustang shape anymore if the V8 is illegal.

There are plenty of people pissed that EU cities are going all EV by 2035. My German colleagues and I talk about it quite often. Most of the anger isn't because they don't want EV, it's because they can't afford it. The government here will not likely outlaw specific engines, but the emissions regulations will make V8s less practical. Most of the major auto players around the world are backing off ICE development, and dumping the cash into EV/hybrid/fuel cell. It's not ideal when you are in fuel system development.

That said, I welcome smaller boosted engines and hybrids, as long as they can keep the weight down and keep similar handling. I am not gung-ho on EV, just because I feel that the technology has a long way to go (as does the US infrastructure). Oh well, back to job hunting...

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