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Well, I already left the shop and paid :doh:

You think there would be long term problems with -2 camber in the rear? I was told it wouldn't be too bad. I'm not super concerned about tire wear if that's the only issue.
Depends on how much toe you have (for wear). It also means you'll have less straight line grip, and will only access the full grip of the rear tires when driving HARD. And when doing that your front will lose its optimum contact patch before the rear, so it'll have more of a tendency to understeer at the limit.
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Depends on how much toe you have (for wear). It also means you'll have less straight line grip, and will only access the full grip of the rear tires when driving HARD. And when doing that your front will lose its optimum contact patch before the rear, so it'll have more of a tendency to understeer at the limit.
Whats the recommended toe? 0?
 

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Just got back from another shop who's known for alignment work. They gave me a great price, and their machine measured differently than FORD's. They said I didn't need much adjustment at all.

My toe is now corrected, and everything is in the green.

Rear wheels are -2.1 camber, fronts still -1.6, but I can live with that. Should be expected, and eventually I'll get caster/camber plates and try to dial things in better, but it's a daily driver with new rubber all around, so I'm not going to stress it.

Never going back to my dealership again for this kind of stuff.
so you went to shop known for alignments and they sent you home with the rear camber out of spec? even though it is adjustable with factory parts, hell the front is even out of spec, but as repeatedly said, not adjustable without parts......
 

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It gains slightly more than a degree per inch of lowering, at least around nominal.
Hmmmm . . . didn't expect it to be quite that much, unless perhaps the lateral links are running a good bit uphill toward the chassis at nominal ride height.


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so you went to shop known for alignments and they sent you home with the rear camber out of spec? even though it is adjustable with factory parts, hell the front is even out of spec, but as repeatedly said, not adjustable without parts......
They assured me it would be fine, but you're right. Should I call them and go back to get it closer to 1~?
 

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Hmmmm . . . didn't expect it to be quite that much, unless perhaps the lateral links are running a good bit uphill toward the chassis at nominal ride height.


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They're pretty short compared with the lower control arm. That gets you a lot of camber change.
 

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They're pretty short compared with the lower control arm. That gets you a lot of camber change.
Are we both talking about the same end of the car? I was referencing the front's strut suspension.

Lots of camber change at the rear would beg the question of why the rear camber range and preferred setting would be more negative than for front camber.


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Are we both talking about the same end of the car? I was referencing the front's strut suspension.

Lots of camber change at the rear would beg the question of why the rear camber range and preferred setting would be more negative than for front camber.


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I was talking about the rear only. I think we've both commented in the past that the likely reason for the relatively high static rear camber spec is for safety margin/intentional understeer built in. Agreed though that it is pretty high for the amount of gain it has. I've measured a couple cars rear camber change now in heave alone (measured before and after lowering the car).
 
 








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