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Part of my comments was to see how commentors reply to others they don't agree with. This thread started out as questions about adaptive cruise control but quickly turned into replies about how 'wimpy' drivers are that use CC.
The majority of threads on this website quickly turn into snide comments about others.
I came here to find out as much I as could about the features of the new Mustang, but it is time consuming to work my way through the negative comments about other's choices.
I have deleted quite a few URLs because the comments always seemed to devolve into "Mine is Bigger than Yours!"
Sure there are some less than favorable comments here and there, but I think people have to remember you can't read tone from black text on the internet. For myself, I never intend to come off as aggressive or belittling to anyone for any reason. I do like to interact with others and discuss various topics, specifically when they have a different perspective than I do.

For now no one has a car in their possession so we can't help people with tech issues because there are none, we have no people doing never thought of mods because we don't even know what we can do with the cars yet. A lot of this conversation for the sake of conversation will cease once people have cars to actually talk about.

And I absolutely respect Norm and anyone else who chooses not to use cruise control for any reason they desire. I was just curious to what their reasoning was for doing so.
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Part of my comments was to see how commentors reply to others they don't agree with. This thread started out as questions about adaptive cruise control but quickly turned into replies about how 'wimpy' drivers are that use CC.
The majority of threads on this website quickly turn into snide comments about others.
I came here to find out as much I as could about the features of the new Mustang, but it is time consuming to work my way through the negative comments about other's choices.
I have deleted quite a few URLs because the comments always seemed to devolve into "Mine is Bigger than Yours!"
You must be new to Mustang forums :) This is definitely a more mature and civil crowd as Mustang forums go. Many of them are totally out of control and anything goes. IMO this place strikes a good median between passionate debate and being respectful. Definitely some "hot button" topics that get people heated (although I can't understand why cruise control would be one of them) but enthusiasts as a whole tend to be passionate about driving and a lot of the nanny systems some people view as taking away from that. I can see it both ways but never understood why, if no one is forcing you to use it, people take it so personally. I suppose cost and weight is an issue but pretty minimal worries if you ask me. Having done a lot of long distance highway driving myself, it has saved me from some fatigue on a few trips and in no way takes away from the spirited driving that I do on a regular basis. One of those "good to have" features that come in handy now and then.
 

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If you put in the clutch the ACC will disengage guaranteed. For those on the fence for this option it may not be for you. I use it on my other non ford vehicles with autos and really like it so it's easy for me to order it with a manual trans, should work fine for me.
Okay, I wasn't sure how Ford does it on manual transmission cars. Audi's ACC allows you to shift gears without disengaging the ACC system.
Was reading the owner's manual and it says that the message center will alert you if ACC needs you to down shift because of slower speeds. I would say the verdict is still out on the clutch disengaging ACC.
 

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Definitely some "hot button" topics that get people heated (although I can't understand why cruise control would be one of them) but enthusiasts as a whole tend to be passionate about driving and a lot of the nanny systems some people view as taking away from that. I can see it both ways but never understood why
Let me try.

To an enthusiast, being relegated to "co-driver" status to the nannies can be seen as an insult, that not only are you not good enough to be left on your own . . . but that you aren't even any better than the lowest common denominator driver that such systems are most beneficial for. That's the implication.


if no one is forcing you to use it, people take it so personally.
While nobody can physically force the use of CC, the repeated suggestions just in this thread that more people should use it - never mind the various reasons given - is an effort at achieving the same end result. On the receiving end, it's an attempt to get some folks to change the way they prefer to drive to a way that better suits others . . . and it comes wrapped in a scolding tone of keystrokes. Of course it's going to draw resistance.


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similar to the manual versus auto topic.
 

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I suppose cost and weight is an issue but pretty minimal worries if you ask me.
Cost can be an issue, particularly later on when you discover that the features are beyond your own abilities to diagnose and repair and you have to add that cost.

But even initially there are people who would much prefer to spend their car-budget money on performance mods, consumables and track time. I'd have paid $1k or more in 2008 for GT500 wheels with two sets of GT500 front tires (I actually tried to get my dealership to set my car up with that combination), but I wouldn't have opted for the available navigation system at any price.

Individually at least, the weight of most features shouldn't matter too much (a sunroof or a top-end audio option with a trunk mounted amplifier and subwoofer being exceptions). As long as the mfrs don't conclude that just because people didn't balk at adding 50 or 75 lbs one year that they're free to add 50 more the next.

Ideally, features that you don't use very often (or at all) should stay out of your way except when you're actively using them, and the nannies that you can't turn off should always get things right. But unfortunately, this isn't always the case, and when it isn't it's apt to be at a particularly inconvenient time.


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I don't use cruise control because it would spell disaster on the highways here. All the negative examples people have used are completely true. Nobody can keep a constant speed, and there are far too many "normal drivers" that are distractedly tapping the brakes every few seconds and/or moving about in their lane.



Plus we have the brain dead people who sit in the left lane below the speed limit- oblivious to the pile of cars behind them that turns the right lane into a free for all.



Sure you can use adaptive cruise control ...but to me , dealing with and overcoming people who can't be bothered to ever use their review mirror is part of driving. Dont get me wrong, I wish It wasn't like that. But that's what my commute consists of. I love driving because it lets me focus on something else...escape...relax. Have fun.





In ny experience with cruise control, using it on long trips have made things worse. Setting the cruise control is one less aspect to worry about , which made it easier to nearly fall asleep or pay less attention.



Now those who can use it, more power to you. Just giving my thoughts and opinions on the matter. I would be happy with just a "stop and go traffic control" :p

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I see what you did there :paddle:
Sorry, sometimes I can't help myself. :repost:
 

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Cruise control aside, I'm interested to know what the insurance implications will be for the collision mitigation feature that's also included in the package. Insurance discounts are often tied to such features. Can anyone that has this feature on another make/model comment on this?
 

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Hello everyone,

I was just curious if anyone could help me better understand how the ACC will work with a manual transmission? It seems there is not much to adapt to using cruise control if you have to shift gears while doing it. Sorry if this has been posted before, I couldn't find it anywhere.
 

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It adapts to the speed of the car in front of you, it has nothing to do with shifting gears. You are still in control of that.

Using ACC, you set the speed you want to travel at and the gap to the car in front of you. If the car in front of you slows down, or someone gets in front of you, the car will adjust its speed to maintain the gap you set it to. If the car in front of you decelerates quickly, then you will have to intervene to change gear if required.
 

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ya, no different than normal cruise with a manual trans. It works within whatever gear you are in. It drops out when you hit the clutch to shift.

According to the manual, ACC will drop out if you are in too high or low of gear as well.
 

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Does anyone know what technology adaptive cruise control use? I was heading home from work today and my radar detector was constantly beeping at me in the K band. It only did it when I had a certain car behind or in front of me. I was kinda curious so I googled what might be causing this interference, as the guy didn't seem to be an undercover cop or anything like that. Figured out that some of the German manufacturers use K band radar for their lane departure warning system, and either K band or laser (same as police laser) for their adaptive cruise control. The car today was a KIA suv of some sort that seemed to be fully loaded, so I think it had both lane departure and adaptive cruise. Might cause issues for those wishing to run with a radar detector in their S550.
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