6R80 & Forced Induction Shifting Issues

[Poppacapp]

I can see why someone would think that, but do keep in mind that Ken@Lund / and Lund Racing in general are also "Fluid Turbo Kits"

They are starting to develop their 2015 Kits.

So in all honesty, it is a conflict of interest.

It is similar to someone trying to pay me to fly out and dial in their non-BMR suspension on their vehicle (on a vehicle we specialize in)

I understand what you are trying to say, but from a consumer standpoint, what we are hearing from them in essence is "If you don't buy our twin turbo kit, we will not tune yours." I understand them wanting to sell their kits.. businesses are supposed to make money. Tuning a turbo setup, I would assume is not going to be hugely different than any other forced induction setup. I am sure there will be variations, but its only a tune.

As far as their twin kit. I personally would not have any problems considering their kit over the others, provided the quality to value ratio is there, and price competitive.

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[Nomad]

Any idea why boost in the gauge mode only started reading after the boost controller was installed ?
It was barely reading 1-2 psi at wastegate spring pressure but now reads 10-11 when the boost controller reads 4-5.

The controller should not affect the factory boost gauge.

I can see why someone would think that, but do keep in mind that Ken@Lund / and Lund Racing in general are also "Fluid Turbo Kits"

They are starting to develop their 2015 Kits.

So in all honesty, it is a conflict of interest.

It is similar to someone trying to pay me to fly out and dial in their non-BMR suspension on their vehicle (on a vehicle we specialize in)

I get that.. But at least you have suspension parts on the market.
Fluid has brought nothing to market for the consumer…. Hellion has the market cornered for a quality mass produced TT kit.

Soooo…. Lund is not tuning turbo coyotes because one day they "might" release a kit to compete with Hellion. Great business strategy.

 

[Kryckter]

Soooo…. Lund is not tuning turbo coyotes because one day they "might" release a kit to compete with Hellion. Great business strategy.

Yeah:shrug:. Plus he is one of the most reputable mustang tuners out there. I know there is many Hellion customers that would gladly pay him for his time and expertise right now...

 

[BMR Tech]

Well, he may eventually entertain tuning other turbo kits, but I could understand his decision not to.

The fact is, tuning is THE single most important part of it. If you are the best tuner in the world for the 2015 Mustang, and plan to make products for it (that your tune will assist in selling the product, because of how good both the tune and the turbo kit is)- then why would you use your skills to make a competing product look good?

I can see past the initial concept of "well he is the best, so he should tune our cars"....but maybe that is because I don't have a Turbo Kit on mine.

 

[olaosunt]

Well, he may eventually entertain tuning other turbo kits, but I could understand his decision not to.

The fact is, tuning is THE single most important part of it. If you are the best tuner in the world for the 2015 Mustang, and plan to make products for it (that your tune will assist in selling the product, because of how good both the tune and the turbo kit is)- then why would you use your skills to make a competing product look good?

I can see past the initial concept of "well he is the best, so he should tune our cars"....but maybe that is because I don't have a Turbo Kit on mine.

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I know the controller should not affect the cars OEM boost gauge but it does(it did not read anything before and now it reads high).

Lund snr (great guy) is remote tuning my 12 with snake bite TVS after my auto swap.

He had tuned it when it had a manual and ran 10.3@138. As you guys all know he is a veteran and accomplished helicopter pilot.He did not charge me a dime extra for the retune when he learnt I just returned from a deployment( and he has spent many hours reviewing multiple logs).:clap2:
I asked him about tuning the 15 Hellion kit and what he told me was that he feels the kit has some minor "issues" that need to be worked out first, but that if they were, he would consider tuning one in person(not remote)

 

[BMR Tech]

^ Good info! Thanks for sharing.

 

[Kryckter]

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I asked him about tuning the 15 Hellion kit and what he told me was that he feels the kit has some minor "issues" that need to be worked out first, but that if they were, he would consider tuning one in person(not remote)

Interesting. I want to say I've heard one other person quote that... I wonder what "issues" he sees with the kit. I'm thinking it must be high MPH in the 1/4

 

[Nomad]

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I know the controller should not affect the cars OEM boost gauge but it does(it did not read anything before and now it reads high).

I'm guessing the factory gauge reads off a calculation of air flow. Maybe since the controller increases the boost ramp that affects the gauge. Don't know.

Well, he may eventually entertain tuning other turbo kits, but I could understand his decision not to.

The fact is, tuning is THE single most important part of it. If you are the best tuner in the world for the 2015 Mustang, and plan to make products for it (that your tune will assist in selling the product, because of how good both the tune and the turbo kit is)- then why would you use your skills to make a competing product look good?

I can see past the initial concept of "well he is the best, so he should tune our cars"....but maybe that is because I don't have a Turbo Kit on mine.

I'm sure Lund is a great tuner but there's tuners out there that are doing a really good job on the 15's.
Lund is certainly not tuning the fastest Coyotes.....because he won't tune turbo cars. So personally, I wouldn't call him the best.

 

[Nomad]

Interesting. I want to say I've heard one other person quote that... I wonder what "issues" he sees with the kit. I'm thinking it must be high MPH in the 1/4

I think he can't understand why turbo cars are making the same power (and more low end torque) as supercharged cars with half the boost!!!

 

[Poppacapp]

I think he can't understand why turbo cars are making the same power (and more low end torque) as supercharged cars with half the boost!!!

Turbos ftw > Superchargers err'day

 

[H35]

The fact is, tuning is THE single most important part of it. If you are the best tuner in the world for the 2015 Mustang, and plan to make products for it (that your tune will assist in selling the product, because of how good both the tune and the turbo kit is)- then why would you use your skills to make a competing product look good?

If there are 'issues' with the Hellion kit and Lund can tune them ....then that makes him look even better!!

Hellion is not their competition for 2015 Mustangs because Fluid doesn't have a kit yet, ,so there is no competition.

Technically any blower would be competition...is it not always 'Turbo vs Blower'?

How will Fluid convince the average person to spend an additional $3,000.00 plus on their turbo kits when you can buy a blower, Lund tunes it and they make 700+hp? That would make any blower company their competition.

Competition- the act or process of trying to get or win something (such as a prize or a higher level of success) that someone else is also trying to get or win

Just a thought......

 

[Nomad]

If there are 'issues' with the Hellion kit and Lund can tune them ....then that makes him look even better!!

Hellion is not their competition for 2015 Mustangs because Fluid doesn't have a kit yet, ,so there is no competition.

Technically any blower would be competition...is it not always 'Turbo vs Blower'?

How will Fluid convince the average person to spend an additional $3,000.00 plus on their turbo kits when you can buy a blower, Lund tunes it and they make 700+hp? That would make any blower company their competition.

Competition- the act or process of trying to get or win something (such as a prize or a higher level of success) that someone else is also trying to get or win

Just a thought......

Again, great business strategy.

 

[sigintel]

Follow up bump.
Anyone have any more input on 6R80 issues w FI?

 

[Rocketboy]

Recently mine started to do the slipping issue. Same tune for the last 20,000 miles. Currently, I have 56,000 on my car. This is only noticed when driving below 1,800 RPM. But, most noticeable around 1,300-1,500.
But, it is not present in S mode. Only present in Drive. Tune was done by MPT. Will have to set back to stock and see if problem persist.

 

[3beeps]

Recently mine started to do the slipping issue. Same tune for the last 20,000 miles. Currently, I have 56,000 on my car. This is only noticed when driving below 1,800 RPM. But, most noticeable around 1,300-1,500.
But, it is not present in S mode. Only present in Drive. Tune was done by MPT. Will have to set back to stock and see if problem persist.

:gossip: This thread is 3 years old and unrelated lol

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