Grimace427
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I REALLY hope I'm wrong and this is still going to be the end all be all Mustang of all time!!!
It would still be just another new car compared to something like a '69 Boss 429 or a '67 GT500.
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I REALLY hope I'm wrong and this is still going to be the end all be all Mustang of all time!!!
Both those older vehicles are very cool cars, but we all know they don't perform worth squat compared to a modern car. Depends on priorities - looking good vs. kicking butt.It would still be just another new car compared to something like a '69 Boss 429 or a '67 GT500.
Yeah but the Boss sounds so amazing - totally different than our GT350s but still killerBoth those older vehicles are very cool cars, but we all know they don't perform worth squat compared to a modern car. Depends on priorities - looking good vs. kicking butt.
Forget about the horsepower/torque war. Those days are over.The car is at least a year or two past its prime debut. Unless Ford is going to account for newer competition like the demon or maybe even a new Z28 Camaro and tune the car for more power and capabilities, I don't see it being that special if or when it finally debut in 2019.
Horsepower wars should be done yes.Forget about the horsepower/torque war. Those days are over.
FCA took that crown and went home with it. I don't see anyone topping them when it comes to that. Not only in the muscle car department, but in an suv as well. 2 suv's if you're counting the Trackhawk and the Jeep SRT8.
We're just going to hope that the GT500 is a torque/horsepower beast like the '13/1'4 were, but only perform on the road a lot better.
I will buy one of these cars one day.No better example as the new 600LT.
That particular Boss sounds awesome, but it sure didn't sound stock. I agree a V8 with a big cam sounds terrific.Yeah but the Boss sounds so amazing - totally different than our GT350s but still killer
Kinda tracks with my theory that the only reason for the January info at NAIAS was to blunt media interest in the ZR1 that was launched in November. Get them talking about something other than ZR1. It halfway worked. At least up until ZR1 beat Ford GT tracktime. Possibly a reply to Ford’s using the GT500 to divert discussion on the ZR1.Mid July and no new news about the GT500.HTML:
Some of those sound to me like good moves if you are in business to beat the competition.Kinda tracks with my theory that the only reason for the January info at NAIAS was to blunt media interest in the ZR1 that was launched in November. Get them talking about something other than ZR1. It halfway worked. At least up until ZR1 beat Ford GT tracktime. Possibly a reply to Ford’s using the GT500 to divert discussion on the ZR1.
Ford has a reputation in the Auto Show circuit of pulling dick moves. Just a couple that I have witnessed first hand....
- When GM launched the GMT900 trucks at NAIAS (can’t remember which year) Ford had the press conference just ahead of Chevrolet. They lowered a concept truck from the ceiling of Joe Louis Arena literally minutes before Chevrolet unveiled the Silverado
- When Acura introduced the new NSX at Detroit NAIAS, Ford moved the Ford GT from the stage in Joe Louis Arena (where they have held their press conferences) to their stand on the show floor in Cobo Hall. The Ford stand is across the aisle from the Acura stand. They timed it so that the GT would be in the aisle as the NSX was being introduced and then revved it hard while the Acura spokesperson was talking about the NSX.
- While Ram or Jeep (honestly can’t remember which) was introducing a new vehicle at an off-circuit show, Ford had a fleet of Raptors show up and basically hooned the event. I didn’t personally witness this one, but one of the guys who worked for me that I sent to the show called me as it was happening.
The fact that there has been zippo said about the car by Ford since January is evidence that what little they did say was not really part of the mainline communication plan.
No doubt. But, knowing months in advance that you have the press conference slot just ahead of the company that is introducing a new truck gives you time to plan that. Especially when you do not have a new product to introduce that year, or plan the intro of your new product to occur in March at New York instead of January in Detroit to clear the decks for this stunt. A couple of me press friends told me they had no idea Ford was even considering a truck concept until a day or two before the event and that they were under strict embargo to not reveal the plan.Lowering a truck from the ceiling isn't something done on a whim and takes quite a bit of planning in a public venue.
martinjlm said:Ford has a reputation in the Auto Show circuit of pulling dick moves...
...knowing months in advance that you have the press conference slot just ahead of the company that is introducing a new truck gives you time to plan that. Especially when you do not have a new product to introduce that year...A couple of me press friends told me they had no idea Ford was even considering a truck concept until a day or two before the event and that they were under strict embargo to not reveal the plan.
Yes, that one would be considered slick, but it opens them up to having the same game played. The other two were clearly very juvenile dick moves.See what I'm getting at? Based on what you've stated I'd call what Ford did rather "slick."