2019 GT350 Confirmed

[tdzee]

I agree that the 5.2 Update (listed in the UAW agreement) could mean the 500 blower version. However, the MY20 engine oil chart listed both. It suddenly occurs to me, could they change over to a CPC (vs FPC) for the 350 in MY19? Would that simple change yield a little more power (ie Aluminator)? Is it possible that the 5.0 might be swapped out in the next gen for the 5.2 block? A CPC 350 could be a precursor for that next move. Just speculation and what if?

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[UAmach1]

I agree that the 5.2 Update (listed in the UAW agreement) could mean the 500 blower version. However, the MY20 engine oil chart listed both. It suddenly occurs to me, could they change over to a CPC (vs FPC) for the 350 in MY19? Would that simple change yield a little more power (ie Aluminator)? Is it possible that the 5.0 might be swapped out in the next gen for the 5.2 block? A CPC 350 could be a precursor for that next move. Just speculation and what if?

Wouldn't moving to a CPC also bring down the RPM range? I know the Bullitt is supposed to be about 7400 RPM redline based on photos due to the GT350 intake mani. Not sure what else would all have to change to make a CPC 5.2 that goes out to 8K+ I'd be surprised if the new GT500 revs that high.

 

[96cobra]

I love my GT350 so much that I wanted to ordered an R and "upgrade" last year, and after contacting 50+ dealers over many months I finally locked in early August 2017. How does this impact me?

Well 7+ months ago I was struggling to find a dealer to take an R order with what I considered a reasonable ADM, mainly because they were all pushing a newly released document that advised that Ford would be limiting production of the GT350 and GT350R going into MY18! One could reasonably conclude, at that point in time, that this was stated because the GT500 was going to be produced next and that they would be turning the line over to the GT500. So, based on this info, dealers I contacted were asking for strong prices and heavy "non-refundable" deposits based on this. At that point, it was "do or die", or as many posted here on the forums, possibly the last chance to get a new R. The pressure was certainly there for those of us that wanted a new R badly like me.

Since the MY17 production went so long, very few '18 GT350R's were produced early (149 "or so") pushing all of those that were hoping to get their car into April/May 2018 and beyond (for me it will be approximately 9 months before I get the car I ordered).

So now, I find out that MY2019 will happen, which certainly changes the ability of a dealer to hold at strong ADM's like they did on cars they negotiated back then. The used market on my GT350 has changed significantly now also and I'm certainly not going to get as strong of a trade value/sale price.

I know, I didn't buy the GT350 as an investment and there were no guarantees that they wouldn't make a 2019 model. But the 2019 announcement now changes availability of cars and demand, and hence, pricing. Argue all you want that it doesn't matter, but it does effect some of us.

So am I out on my R? Nope. Looking forward to it. I still know that moving forward it's the best car for me and will be for a long time. Just going to roll with it and look forward to finally getting the car I wish I had bought last year.

I'm not looking for sympathy, told-ya-so's, or too bads, just stating how I look at this. Here's the Document my dealer showed me to convince me their ADM was reasonable:

 

[stanglife]

post #2 in this thread! lol, again its ALWAYS the people who dont own a 350 that for some reason "get off" on hoping the prices of these go down....

take a look on cargurus.. there is not 1 '17 or newer car under $50k. but, for those of you that dont own a 350 but keep making stupid comments, i hope that you feel some sense of satisfaction if thats what your looking for :clap2:

And even if/when they do drop a little faster - 350 owners were able to enjoy a good period of minimal depreciation, which is better than the average new car. Plain and simple.

 

[stanglife]

I love my GT350 so much that I wanted to ordered an R and "upgrade" last year, and after contacting 50+ dealers over many months I finally locked in early August 2017. How does this impact me?

Well 7+ months ago I was struggling to find a dealer to take an R order with what I considered a reasonable ADM, mainly because they were all pushing a newly released document that advised that Ford would be limiting production of the GT350 and GT350R going into MY18! One could reasonably conclude, at that point in time, that this was stated because the GT500 was going to be produced next and that they would be turning the line over to the GT500. So, based on this info, dealers I contacted were asking for strong prices and heavy "non-refundable" deposits based on this. At that point, it was "do or die", or as many posted here on the forums, possibly the last chance to get a new R. The pressure was certainly there for those of us that wanted a new R badly like me.

Since the MY17 production went so long, very few '18 GT350R's were produced early (149 "or so") pushing all of those that were hoping to get their car into April/May 2018 and beyond (for me it will be approximately 9 months before I get the car I ordered).

So now, I find out that MY2019 will happen, which certainly changes the ability of a dealer to hold at strong ADM's like they did on cars they negotiated back then. The used market on my GT350 has changed significantly now also and I'm certainly not going to get as strong of a trade value/sale price.

I know, I didn't buy the GT350 as an investment and there were no guarantees that they wouldn't make a 2019 model. But the 2019 announcement now changes availability of cars and demand, and hence, pricing. Argue all you want that it doesn't matter, but it does effect some of us.

So am I out on my R? Nope. Looking forward to it. I still know that moving forward it's the best car for me and will be for a long time. Just going to roll with it and look forward to finally getting the car I wish I had bought last year.

I'm not looking for sympathy, told-ya-so's, or too bads, just stating how I look at this. Here's the Document my dealer showed me to convince me their ADM was reasonable:

You'll be happy, in the end. If the dealer tried to beat you up on the trade-in based on 2019 cars being produced - then explain that they will also need to drop the price of their R, since more of those are coming, too ;)

 

[stanglife]

after a quick look in the catalog, I would argue that is a MAYBE. Most GT350 parts have an FR3Z prefix. 2018 mustang shows magneride shocks with a JR3Z prefix. so while its POSSIBLE they MIGHT share some parts, I would't be sure to make that leap.

I think it would be smart of Ford. AFAIK, the B isn't coming with the knuckle assemblies from the 350 but the basis suspension (and retuned magride/abs for the sticky tires) is a smart move. Doesn't really make it a 350 but it's a good compromise. No knuckles, different trans, no FPC and no trans/diff coolers....

 

[btown93]

I think it would be smart of Ford. AFAIK, the B isn't coming with the knuckle assemblies from the 350 but the basis suspension (and retuned magride/abs for the sticky tires) is a smart move. Doesn't really make it a 350 but it's a good compromise. No knuckles, different trans, no FPC and no trans/diff coolers....

It might share some parts, I agree it would be smart. The description in the catalog can be very misleading. All catalogs are "VIN driven" these days, so until a VIN can be run and a HVBOM (bill of material) can be referenced, there can be conflicting text descriptions of fitment. Here is the text copied and paste from catalog for JR3Z-18124-C

From: 10/02/2017 2018/ ; With Adaptive Damping Control, Coupe, With Traction Pack II | From: 10/02/2017 2018/ ; With Adaptive Damping Control, Coupe, R - Package | From: 10/02/2017 2018/ ; With Adaptive Damping Control, Coupe, With Performance Pack | From: 10/02/2017 2018/ ; With Adaptive Damping Control, Coupe, With SVT Performance Pack | From: 10/02/2017 2018/ ; With Adaptive Damping Control, Coupe, High Performance LS Package


However, I wonder why (if it does in fact share some parts) Ford hasn't stated it in advertising. The press release says it uses the splitter from the "famed boss 302 laguna seca". the 2017 Mustang brocure states how much of the engine is from boss 302. Even the Bullitt press release touts the fact that it has a GT350 intake.

 

[Tomster]

I love my GT350 so much that I wanted to ordered an R and "upgrade" last year, and after contacting 50+ dealers over many months I finally locked in early August 2017. How does this impact me?

Well 7+ months ago I was struggling to find a dealer to take an R order with what I considered a reasonable ADM, mainly because they were all pushing a newly released document that advised that Ford would be limiting production of the GT350 and GT350R going into MY18! One could reasonably conclude, at that point in time, that this was stated because the GT500 was going to be produced next and that they would be turning the line over to the GT500. So, based on this info, dealers I contacted were asking for strong prices and heavy "non-refundable" deposits based on this. At that point, it was "do or die", or as many posted here on the forums, possibly the last chance to get a new R. The pressure was certainly there for those of us that wanted a new R badly like me.

Since the MY17 production went so long, very few '18 GT350R's were produced early (149 "or so") pushing all of those that were hoping to get their car into April/May 2018 and beyond (for me it will be approximately 9 months before I get the car I ordered).

So now, I find out that MY2019 will happen, which certainly changes the ability of a dealer to hold at strong ADM's like they did on cars they negotiated back then. The used market on my GT350 has changed significantly now also and I'm certainly not going to get as strong of a trade value/sale price.

I know, I didn't buy the GT350 as an investment and there were no guarantees that they wouldn't make a 2019 model. But the 2019 announcement now changes availability of cars and demand, and hence, pricing. Argue all you want that it doesn't matter, but it does effect some of us.

So am I out on my R? Nope. Looking forward to it. I still know that moving forward it's the best car for me and will be for a long time. Just going to roll with it and look forward to finally getting the car I wish I had bought last year.

I'm not looking for sympathy, told-ya-so's, or too bads, just stating how I look at this. Here's the Document my dealer showed me to convince me their ADM was reasonable:

You got a good deal compared to others. Imagine paying 15K+ over knowing that it is lost money.

For me, I don't care. I bought the grey car for life, and its shaping up that the yellow one will be with me for a long time as well. I had an offer last night that I refused. Whether he was serious or not, I don't know, but I told him my car was not for sale at this point.

 

[_M_]

I mean really who knows. I do think that the reason 350s were extended were to fill the unexpected gap of a delayed 500. We also have no idea what the production numbers are going to be in 19. At some point they are going to stop making the car and make something faster, better, etc. regardless the 350 is going to go down as one of the best cars Ford has ever produced. Period. For that reason it will hold value far longer than most cars

 

[likeaboss]

Fingers crossed that rev matching comes to the 19 GT350. Heel toe is a bit difficult with my big feet.

 

[Mspeedster]

Fingers crossed that rev matching comes to the 19 GT350. Heel toe is a bit difficult with my big feet.

Digital gauge cluster and rev matching should be 2 relatively easy and nice upgrades for the '19 model. The GT350 has gone basically unchanged for 4 model years (15. 16. 17 & 18), it's time for some upgrades. They should update the interior to the '18 MY premium spec (i.e. lower center console) while they're at it.

Having said that, I like my sports cars analogue and raw. So I'm perfectly happy with my '16 Track Pack and have no intention of trading it any time soon. Still, for new buyers, the GT350 is overdue for some updates. Wouldn't mind some suspension and engine enhancement tweaks as well.

 

[Carbon Addict]

It wasn't Ford claiming the weight reduction but rather all the magazine speculators.

Dave Pericak said in an interview that weight savings was one of their goals and 200lbs seemed doable.

 

[Zitrosounds]

You beat me too it! I was looking for a reference before I posted. I know few guys that work for a major automobile publication. Making Sh!t up is not their forte. Either way, this kind of info doesn't get leaked unless the OEM wants it to be but does not make it certain. I was following the S550 platform from really early on as a possible replacement for my 12 GT/PP and the weight loss was attractive. Then the actual weight was released and :frusty::thumbdown:

 

[machsmith]

I'm willing to bet nothing gets changed on the '19 350. Maybe for '20 though.

 

[Tomster]

I'm willing to bet nothing gets changed on the '19 350. Maybe for '20 though.

That's where my money is. I don't know about the '20 MY though......

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