2018 GT 350

[MAGS1]

Earliest you can get from them is for a 2020. Not an option.



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I think that says more about the people of Colorado than the car.

I’ve heard of them doing earlier than 2020 but I think you have to call?

@Zach@Granger can help

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[526 HRSE]

I’ve heard of them doing earlier than 2020 but I think you have to call?

@Zach@Granger can help

possibly? not on the website though.

 

[Ltsrock]

I think that says more about the people of Colorado than the car.

And you know that how?

 

[Zach@Granger]

I’ve heard of them doing earlier than 2020 but I think you have to call?

@Zach@Granger can help

We used to be able to, but we had to change to 2020 and up.

 

[526 HRSE]

And you know that how?

Seems to be a rather condensed area of people that "don't get it".

 

[honeybadger]

And you know that how?

right? what a weird ass statement

 

[526 HRSE]

right? what a weird ass statement

5 blown gen1 voodoos all before 10k miles in the same area. That part isn't weird to you but my statement is?

Consider your source of information. Rage messaging while drinking never ends well. See what i did? I assumed something about this guy again.

 

[honeybadger]

5 blown gen1 voodoos all before 10k miles in the same area. That part isn't weird to you but my statement is?

Consider your source of information. Rage messaging while drinking never ends well. See what i did? I assumed something about this guy again.

I mean - 4 of the GT350s in the PNW I knew blew up - must be the people. 7 of the GT350s down here in TX I know have blown up - must be the people, right?

Every single school car going through multiple engines, must be the people, right?

sounded more like you have an axe to grind with the people of CO - which is fucking weird.

 

[5.2 liters of democracy]

Four people I know in socal, mine included, have blown up. Three are gen 2s. One of them is on their third engine as well.

As a fellow Californian maybe he just hasn't had his state-mandated allotment of granola today. I often forget mine, but I can barely stay hydrated so what do I know.

 

[MAGS1]

Four people I know in socal, mine included, have blown up. Three are gen 2s. One of them is on their third engine as well.

As a fellow Californian maybe he just hasn't had his state-mandated allotment of granola today. I often forget mine, but I can barely stay hydrated so what do I know.

Just choked on my water when I read the granola comment

 

[Inthehighdesert]

I’m not going to say anything about what some owners had happen on the street. As for the Track Attack cars. I went to two different 350 Track Attacks. The first one, one person completely smoked the clutch by the second session. The car was literally banging off the limiter while the guy was riding the clutch halfway engaged repeatedly until the clutch was done. Another, same time, was so bad with a manual they shouldn’t have been there. One of the instructors went separately to help them learn to do the basics(nothing wrong here but completely wrong setting). The second time watched a guy go from 125ish(4th) to first gear before the chicane and stuff the car in to the outside wall at about 70mph. I won’t even bring up all the missed gears. Point is those cars got abused big time from many’s lack of lets just say experience. I would be surprised if some of this didn’t take place in the real world as well. Was completely different with the 500 Track Attack for whatever reason.

I mean - 4 of the GT350s in the PNW I knew blew up - must be the people. 7 of the GT350s down here in TX I know have blown up - must be the people, right?

Every single school car going through multiple engines, must be the people, right?

sounded more like you have an axe to grind with the people of CO - which is fucking weird.

 

[honeybadger]

I’m not going to say anything about what some owners had happen on the street. As for the Track Attack cars. I went to two different 350 Track Attacks. The first one, one person completely smoked the clutch by the second session. The car was literally banging off the limiter while the guy was riding the clutch halfway engaged repeatedly until the clutch was done. Another, same time, was so bad with a manual they shouldn’t have been there. One of the instructors went separately to help them learn to do the basics(nothing wrong here but completely wrong setting). The second time watched a guy go from 125ish(4th) to first gear before the chicane and stuff the car in to the outside wall at about 70mph. I won’t even bring up all the missed gears. Point is those cars got abused big time from many’s lack of lets just say experience. I would be surprised if some of this didn’t take place in the real world as well. Was completely different with the 500 Track Attack for whatever reason.

Don't want to drain the thread here, but I don't think anyone would claim that the school cars were treated with care by everyone who drove them. At the same time, idiotic drivers are nothing new. The cars should be built to take that kind of punishment - nothing you described outside of the moneyshift is any harder on the drivetrain than hard track use.

Living near COTA, I get to see a lot of cars come and go. COTA is frequently rented out by BMW, Audi, Porsche, and the like to do "trak experience" events. I know most of the instructors they use personally and we always end up talking about reliability. While everyone has plenty of stories of students driving like you mention above, they don't see their entire field of cars have to get multiple motor replacements.

Hell, even Ford's own GT500 track attack hasn't had near the attrition that the 350s had. Doesn't mean they're a shit car. Also doesn't mean they only break because idiots drive them.

 

[Inthehighdesert]

Interesting take. No piece of equipment no matter how good it is will take being abused continuously or handle the inept. Not a 350, a 500, or any of the heavy equipment I have(and that stuff is about as bullet proof as it gets). Ive spent my fair time on a track, but mostly two wheeled. Money shift was never a term back when guys were popping the syncro’s in t’5 foxbody’s back in the day. I’m not sure where a 4th to first at a 100 plus happens regularly on a track. But I’m sure it does some where. As for the porsche, audi, bmw reference. Let’s not be mistaken here, they have their issue’s to, bigtime. And let’s not leave out the price point threshold between those cars and the 350 at new. The 911’s in the mid 2010’s had all kinds of issue’s. Audi, no different, and BMW a well. As to the 500, that car will make a bad driver look decent. Shxt ton of power, engineering masterpeice of a transmission, and unreal brakes and suspension. The car is fast in just a point and stab manner let alone being driven. I accept the 350 for what it is, not what I expect it to be. But to be honest there’s no way I’d drop 60-70k plus on a new car and run it to the track. But that’s just me. But I never expected to run my track bikes for more then a few weekends before the motors got torn down, same goes for quarter mile stuff. Mechanical stuff operated on tilt breaks, it is what is. I still feel for those that bought one of these cars and got bit by the regular Ford supply chain and a handbuilt motor.

Don't want to drain the thread here, but I don't think anyone would claim that the school cars were treated with care by everyone who drove them. At the same time, idiotic drivers are nothing new. The cars should be built to take that kind of punishment - nothing you described outside of the moneyshift is any harder on the drivetrain than hard track use.

Living near COTA, I get to see a lot of cars come and go. COTA is frequently rented out by BMW, Audi, Porsche, and the like to do "trak experience" events. I know most of the instructors they use personally and we always end up talking about reliability. While everyone has plenty of stories of students driving like you mention above, they don't see their entire field of cars have to get multiple motor replacements.

Hell, even Ford's own GT500 track attack hasn't had near the attrition that the 350s had. Doesn't mean they're a shit car. Also doesn't mean they only break because idiots drive them.

 

[honeybadger]

Interesting take. No piece of equipment no matter how good it is will take being abused continuously or handle the inept. Not a 350, a 500, or any of the heavy equipment I have(and that stuff is about as bullet proof as it gets). Ive spent my fair time on a track, but mostly two wheeled. Money shift was never a term back when guys were popping the syncro’s in t’5 foxbody’s back in the day. I’m not sure where a 4th to first at a 100 plus happens regularly on a track. But I’m sure it does some where. As for the porsche, audi, bmw reference. Let’s not be mistaken here, they have their issue’s to, bigtime. And let’s not leave out the price point threshold between those cars and the 350 at new. The 911’s in the mid 2010’s had all kinds of issue’s. Audi, no different, and BMW a well. As to the 500, that car will make a bad driver look decent. Shxt ton of power, engineering masterpeice of a transmission, and unreal brakes and suspension. The car is fast in just a point and stab manner let alone being driven. I accept the 350 for what it is, not what I expect it to be. But to be honest there’s no way I’d drop 60-70k plus on a new car and run it to the track. But that’s just me. But I never expected to run my track bikes for more then a few weekends before the motors got torn down, same goes for quarter mile stuff. Mechanical stuff operated on tilt breaks, it is what is. I still feel for those that bought one of these cars and got bit by the regular Ford supply chain and a handbuilt motor.

you're kind of jumping all over the place. I'll try to address best I can since you're taking stuff out of context and straw manning a bit.

Track abuse:
Never said a money shift is common place at the track. I said the other stuff you described is on par with hard driving on a race track. Abusing clutches, riding rev limiters, etc.? absolutely. and it only gets worse with drivers that don't have any mechanical sympathy for a vehicle they don't own. I've also watched dudes trying to load their own race cars on a trailer about burn them up. It happens. Clutches are wear items for a reason. rev limiters today are very good and they're not hurting an engine bouncing off them. Again - this is all common place for a tracked car.

Mechanical reliability/track readiness:
Splitting hairs here man. I never said something can be absolutely abused and have zero issues. But can the engineers build something that be reliable on track? absolutely. Those audi, BMW, and Porsche track experience cars get a good amount of abuse and they're not replacing the entire fleet's drivetrain. I know the instructors and I've ridden with them. They drive them just as hard as the Ford Track Attack instructors did. And the same type of idiots you described above drive them - yet far few problems. Many of those Audis and BMWs are in the same price range as a 350 when new 60-80k. it's not that different.

Regarding the older BMW/Audi/Porsches:
you're kind of proving my point. They used to have issues - and now they don't . Meaning, they fixed them and got reliability figured out for track use. Ford is having issues now and they're getting better and more reliable (GT500 and manual Dark Horse (auto is overheating)).

I accept the 350 for what it is, not what I expect it to be.

So what do you think it is? Ford marketed it as track-ready car and even offered free driver education on how to track it. You say you never expected to track your bikes for more than a few weekends without a motor tear down - so how does relate to the 350 vs 500? Do you believe buyers shouldn't expected to get more than a couple events out of their track-ready car? I haven't seen a single 500 have an issue on track at COTA and I see 5-8 of them every event. Did Ford overbuild the GT500?

I really don't know what point you're trying to make. The facts are the facts man. The 350s had tons of problems in the track attack program - which mirrors many buyer's personal experiences. The 500s don't have the same issues. Nor do cars doing similar programs from Audi, BMW, and Porsche. Not sure why this is such an issue. We can reasonably acknowledge 350s are temperamental and require some consideration while still appreciating them. I know I do

 

[Cobra Jet]

To the OP:
If the car is at a Ford Dealer ask your salesperson for the OASIS report (full report and just tell them to redact the personal info of the prior owner, your interest is about the car!).

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