How is that a cheap shot? You are comparing a previous gen Mustang with one of the more simple (at least on the rear end) suspension designs to a brand new gen car with one of the latest (if not the latest) in suspension tech. Not a great comparison.
EXACTLY. End thread.
I've driven plenty of cars with wide power bands...most recently up to 8000 RPMs. And I drive in city, hwy, all sorts of traffic. Sometimes the hwy can be gridlocked bumper to bumper and then immediately you're going 90 mph again. After working a night shift on your feet for anywhere from 8-16 hours and then having a long drive home, sometimes taking an hour and a half, then yes compared to an auto a manual is a LOT of work. Especially when traffic is going at a speed where one gear is too high and the other is too low so you're constantly shifting back and forth because the flow of traffic keeps changing. Not just that but the fact that this trans just hits the sweet spot instantly every single time is pretty freakin cool. Like I said before tho, different strokes for different folks. Some feel the complete opposite and that is cool. But for me I had to switch from manuals. I know some people think they are the best and are super fun and that is cool. But I don't. And you can knock me all you want for it...but what I said is no more outlandish than someone else calling supercharger whine "annoying". We all have our tastes.
You do need to take it down a bit. I don't know if you're joking with your comments or really are getting pissed off. I can only go by what you write. And from where I stand it seems like you're taking offense to just about everything I and mdmoore say even tho neither of us have put down a Mustang. We're both just sharing our experiences. And I don't know about you, but I have a very long list of Stangs I've owned. From 351 converted SN95s to 5.4 converted New Edges with boost to Foxes to just about everything else you can think of. I have been in and out of more Mustangs in the past 10 years than I can count on both hands. Even SOHC T-Birds, Mark VIIIs, F150s, etc. So stop treating us like we're enemies or trying to troll or get a rise out of you guys. I have been kicked off of Camaro pages for defending Mustangs. I have been called a "Mustang fanboy" by Chevy loyalists. I have been talked down to at tracks and meets for bringing my Mustangs when Chevy guys were there. I have seen Mustang guys get bypassed at shows due to bias. And I have been treated just as badly by Mustang guys due to the fact that I've owned just about every Camaro there is from TPIs to LT1s to LS1s to everything else man. Chill the eff out a bit. Nobody is trying to fight you guys. We're just sharing our unique experiences from being on BOTH sides of the fence.
Jason, as I said previously mentioned this poster is no automotive enthusiast but someone who continues to pretend that he knows something about HP vehicles and brags about how much money he makes so what does that tell you about his mentality?
I really have no idea what you are talking about. And pissed off? Not even close, just chiming in on things when I have something to say. And your unique experiences driving the freeway in an automatic car. That's unique, to who? :shrug::lol:
Never bragged about making money. I simply mentioned one time that I make good money and it was to point out something. I never said the older Mustangs and Camaros were all the same. I was simply explaining that I have owned a variety of Mustangs and Camaros over the years. I don't claim to be the most knowledgeable or most experienced, but if you are ever in NJ and would like to go to a track or car show just to walk around and talk to people and converse with them or even cruise over to a few of the local shops and talk with some of the guys there then I would enjoy that.Jason, as I said previously mentioned this poster is no automotive enthusiast but someone who continues to pretend that he knows something about HP vehicles and brags about how much money he makes so what does that tell you about his mentality?
As you mentioned in your post about him being too tired to shift gears or too lazy to shift gears let alone knowing nothing about automatic starts on MT automobiles what does that tell you about his knowledge or experience?
I am very happy that he makes a lot of money based on his self proclaim but he has not idea about being an automotive enthusiast which is another self proclaim that I can tell is totally without merit.
For this person to suggest that all previous Mustangs and Camaro's were pretty much all the same sums it up very well.
He has absolutely no idea!!
He make a lot more money than me but after being an automotive enthusiast for ~50 years his comments are pretty much a joke based on lack of knowledge and experience.
Unique experiences from owning many different cars from Ford to Chevy is what I meant. A lot of people are biased. However mdmoore has owned both a GT350 and a ZL1. So that makes his experiences unique because he can explain what he thought about both cars. I have had experiences in both cars as well. Not from the driver's seat of a GT350 or GT350R but I have felt it. And it is a superb car. I've driven plenty of Mustangs from GTs to some of the upper models. Same with Camaros. I've owned one of each at the same time. And I have several friends who likewise have owned a mix of cars. I've driven theirs, they've driven mine, we've raced, etc. So I feel as if I do have an extensive knowledge of a lot of different cars and unique experiences. And I do feel like I am an enthusiast. As an enthusiast, I can confidently say that I do not prefer Mustangs or Camaros over others although right now I have gravitated towards Camaros. At different times tho I have gravitated towards Mustangs because of what they offered. But overall, they are both equal in my eyes. Where one falls short the other excels and vice versa. They both offer such different experiences that I literally chose to drive my SS or my GT based on how I felt or how I wanted to drive on any particular day. Heck I've driven my SS and then came home to park it and drive my GT many times. Both being late models. Not many people can say that. So yes I do feel like my experiences are unique and not based on highway driving an auto trans car, lol!!
Just to be clear, I have not owned a GT350 before. My most recent Mustang was the 2013 GT500.
OH, lol!! My bad. But damn bro I would have loved a GT500. Several months ago I had a chance to buy a 14 GT500 with low miles for a really good price and I was soo tempted. But unfortunately I had to get a SUV for Winter months. But it was still a tough decision to pass it up. I also had a chance to get one brand new back in 2012. But I held out because at the time I thought I would be doing some traveling...which never happened. So it seems like they just keep slipping thru my fingers.
Yea I don't really have to answer to you now do I sunshine? How about instead of talking about me you talk about the GT350R or the shootout...
That's what I thought. How about instead of crying/whining all the time you actually take your own advice and find a GT350 to drive and compare to the ZL1. You know, like you guys keep telling us to just drive the ZL1 etc.
It's too much work to push the clutch pedal in on the GT350.