UNtamed67
Silver Shadow
Wonder what will happen with European models if deliveries only start during summer in Europe...Same production lines...can't imagine they will mix up 2015 & 2016 models depending on the area to ship to ?
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You hit the nail on the head with that last one -- Ford DOES want to alienate drivers who prefer NA engines to turbo, or, rather, to convert them to wanting turbos. Turbocharged engines are better on fuel economy and CO2 emissions testing than N/A engines, period. Ford is trying to wean people off of N/A engines, just like every other manufacturer.They really should offer the V6 in Premium. There is no harm in doing this except alienating their customer base who prefer a NA engine to a turbo.
fall...15 isn't even 6 months old in the beginning of springI wonder when we will see the 16' model year build/price on the Ford website and find out about any new changes, other than Sync 3 and hopefully finally, the gunmetal well color option for the PP wheels.
I was thinking around the Spring ??
I don't know about Ford wanting to but they're definitely forced into pushing the turbo charged engines. Just like Ferrari - http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/news/a24691/ferrari-engineers-dont-like-turbocharging/You hit the nail on the head with that last one -- Ford DOES want to alienate drivers who prefer NA engines to turbo, or, rather, to convert them to wanting turbos. Turbocharged engines are better on fuel economy and CO2 emissions testing than N/A engines, period. Ford is trying to wean people off of N/A engines, just like every other manufacturer.
It's already happened with European cars; after Porsche switches to all N/A (except the GT3) in a couple of years, the only European car which will ship with an N/A engine in any sort of volume is the Smart. Unless you want to consider VAG's V10 in the Hurucan and R8 to be a "volume" engine.
It's almost certain that the 5.2 litre Voodoo engine in the GT350 will be the last new naturally aspirated performance engine ever developed.
Hardly:headbonk:iam averaging 25.5 real word driving over 2300 miles and i get on it quite a bit.I also get moving just fine with a few psi which doesn't gulp gas,I do not drive with mpg in mind but its certainly nice to see. If you're in boost all the time of course mpg suffers same as flooring a na All the time would.Reading these same type of comments all the time is ridiculous.Yep. Real world fuel econ on turbo engines sucks. Enough throttle to move you gets you into boost and then it starts gulping.
But it does great on the fuel econ tests, so thats what they have to use.
The test is the culprit, not the designers.
I would say YES ...spring time for the 2016 MY ordering ?
Maybe i got lucky then because my car got 29.7 mpg its first 200 miles on the engine driving back from the dealer not even broke in yet.. mix of some back roads, stuck in traffic, and interstate!!! Ill take the new Turbo over N/A any day.. this is a new designed engine that differs from the older ecoboost's its new from the ground up just like the car! cant compaire to the older ecoboost's...Yep. Real world fuel econ on turbo engines sucks. Enough throttle to move you gets you into boost and then it starts gulping.
But it does great on the fuel econ tests, so thats what they have to use.
The test is the culprit, not the designers.
Also the "One Ford" strategy means common powertrains all over the world. Europeans tax heavily based on displacement, making turbocharging favorable for the purchase price.Yep. Real world fuel econ on turbo engines sucks. Enough throttle to move you gets you into boost and then it starts gulping.
But it does great on the fuel econ tests, so thats what they have to use.
The test is the culprit, not the designers.
Also the "One Ford" strategy means common powertrains all over the world. Europeans tax heavily based on displacement, making turbocharging favorable for the purchase price.
Makes sense since the next camaro will most likely have 440+ hp from the start.According to a somewhat reliable source I know personally there will be changes for the GT at least... *cough* more horsepower *cough* and some other things I won't say haha. Thats whats holding me back from purchasing a 2015. If it is true, remember I called it first.![]()