2016 Camaro - know the details

[ZaneWayne]

I'm referring to track performance and durability. And not just 1 hot lap followed by critical overheat and two radiators falling off.

I'm don't remember that from a Camaro vs Mustang review. Both cars and manufacturers have durablity issues. But obviously arguing with you is going to go nowhere. Enjoy your Mustang!!

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[68fbjjz109]

Agreed and I think this is where Chevy will win the mid range segment.

You don't get the stigma of a 4 cylinder and you get a nice new V6 with very decent HP/TQ as a DD along with a nice engine/exhaust note and very good MPG.

I hope Ford counters that in some way because I prefer the S550 in all ways...but Chevy really countered hard with their 6G



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I've been over at the Camaro6g forums just tracking the new car (didn't sign up or anything). I still want a S550 but I really need Ford to counter this new Camaro because it has a lot going for it.

Ford seems to be phasing redundant power train options out, There is alot of flexibility with forced induced applications so it makes sense to push the 4 cylinder ecoboost, as it benefits them in many ways. Specifically in manufacturing.

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Dave speaking a bit to originally only have two powerplants however they brought in the v6 to keep entry level price down.

I'm don't remember that from a Camaro vs Mustang review. Both cars and manufacturers have durability issues. But obviously arguing with you is going to go nowhere. Enjoy your Mustang!!

Don't mind them. The 6gen Camaro is likely to come out of the gate fast.

 

[ZaneWayne]

Ford seems to be phasing redundant power train options out, There is alot of flexibility with forced induced applications so it makes sense to push the 4 cylinder ecoboost, as it benefits them in many ways. Specifically in manufacturing.






Don't mind them. The 6gen Camaro is likely to come out of the gate fast.

There are fanboys everywhere. They aren't any worse than anyone else. Too each there own! I'm just glad we have an awesome competition going on.

 

[jaja6009]

Based on looks, the Camaro can put a threat to the Mustang. It's subjective anyways.

Now, performance wise, the Mustang will still win by a lot as it have been doing for the last 50 years.

Except from 93 to 2002 when the Fbody twins massacred the Stang when comparing Z28 to GT. When my 94 GT was stock I was in fear at every light of a F twin beat down.
Also 2010 was a beat down too. At least now they seem to be close and it looks like they will start to go back and forth with some good competition.

The craziest thing is the 94 Stang at 215hp won Motor Trend car of the year. People are saying Motor Trend has Camaro bias. Well 20 years ago they editors/writers were biased opposite. Then again maybe the Camaro was hated because of the weird hump the passenger had to sit on and this made you forget how fast the car was.

 

[SuperSportFaint]

I'm don't remember that from a Camaro vs Mustang review. Both cars and manufacturers have durablity issues. But obviously arguing with you is going to go nowhere. Enjoy your Mustang!!

Overheating is a known problem in the Corvette Z06, a car build for performance. I don't find it hard to believe the Camaro with it's several attachments will have similar problems.

Also, more parts = more potential failure. Hence my opinion.

 

[ZaneWayne]

Overheating is a known problem in the Corvette Z06, a car build for performance. I don't find it hard to believe the Camaro with it's several attachments will have similar problems.

Also, more parts = more potential failure. Hence my opinion.

Some of the earlier LT4s had cooling issues for sure.

 

[SuperSportFaint]

Except from 93 to 2002 when the Fbody twins massacred the Stang when comparing Z28 to GT. When my 94 GT was stock I was in fear at every light of a F twin beat down.
Also 2010 was a beat down too. At least now they seem to be close and it looks like they will start to go back and forth with some good competition.

The craziest thing is the 94 Stang at 215hp won Motor Trend car of the year. People are saying Motor Trend has Camaro bias. Well 20 years ago they editors/writers were biased opposite. Then again maybe the Camaro was hated because of the weird hump the passenger had to sit on and this made you forget how fast the car was.

Yes, that was the time when driving Camaros was like sitting on a landmine, you would fly fast but probably for the last time and with a bit of disconfort.

 

[ZaneWayne]

Yes, that was the time when driving Camaros was like sitting on a landmine, you would fly fast but probably for the last time and with a bit of disconfort.

Your fanboyism is so strong that I almost think you're a Camaro owner who is a troll.......

 

[68fbjjz109]

Overheating is a known problem in the Corvette Z06, a car build for performance. I don't find it hard to believe the Camaro with it's several attachments will have similar problems.

Also, more parts = more potential failure. Hence my opinion.

This is true, however we still have no idea how GM is accomplishing this. What type of connections are being used; how plumbing is being routed, how much integration of components there might be to reduce overall component number. The CTS and ATS integrate coolant expansion tanks, washer tanks, and a portion of the line in a single assembly IIRC.

 

[SuperSportFaint]

Some of the earlier LT4s had cooling issues for sure.

Is the issue solved now?

And if that happened to a performance car with an exclusive GM platform, it may very well happen with the Camaro and it's sedan platform + band-aids.

 

[SuperSportFaint]

Your fanboyism is so strong that I almost think you're a Camaro owner who is a troll.......

Not that what you've been almost thinking matters to me, but I actually was a Camaro owner. I had a 75 SS.

 

[68fbjjz109]

Is the issue solved now?

And if that happened to a performance car with an exclusive GM platform, it may very well happen with the Camaro and it's sedan platform + band-aids.

I really think the community should wait till at least on person drives the 6gen Camaro before passing judgement.

The CTS is essentially a bigger ATS, GM has shown they can flex the vehicle effectively with how both of V variants perform.

Ford takes a standardization route in general, and that affords them opportunity to be unique with the Mustang and GT350

 

[9secondko]

Not that what you've been almost thinking matters to me, but I actually was a Camaro owner. I had a 75 SS.

Thought the SS wasn't available in 1975?...

 

[SuperSportFaint]

Thought the SS wasn't available in 1975?...

You are correct. It was a 72* SS. My bad.

 

[ZaneWayne]

You are correct. It was a 72* SS. My bad.

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