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[MENTION=19918]FordTechOne[/MENTION], I agree that one should inspect their purchase. I do believe though, that in the year 2016 20-30 years after the major fallout from mass migration to foreign vehicle purchases in the United States due to quality issues both evident and perceived affecting our auto industry and the subsequent strides in quality of all vehicles made in the us or not,
the general public has no expectation of receiving a product that exhibits issues reminiscent of our auto industry in the 1970's. Having said that, I do love my mustang. I do believe though that no one purchasing a new vehicle in the year 2016 should be seeing these types of issues.

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[FordTechOne]

[MENTION=19918]FordTechOne[/MENTION], I agree that one should inspect their purchase. I do believe though, that in the year 2016 20-30 years after the major fallout from mass migration to foreign vehicle purchases in the United States due to quality issues both evident and perceived affecting our auto industry and the subsequent strides in quality of all vehicles made in the us or not,
the general public has no expectation of receiving a product that exhibits issues reminiscent of our auto industry in the 1970's. Having said that, I do love my mustang. I do believe though that no one purchasing a new vehicle in the year 2016 should be seeing these types of issues.

I agree.

If a buyer inspects a vehicle and finds that it's unacceptable due to build quality/assembly issues, they simply shouldn't buy it.

As you said, in an ideal world no brand new vehicle should leave the plant with any obvious issues. However, things do happen when any product is mass produced, and this thread is proof of that. Is it acceptable in my opinion? No. But the reality is that it happens more often than anyone would like.

The issue here is that the buyer never inspected their purchase before signing, and is now taking to the Internet (like everyone does these days) for sympathy. As I told him, there are 2 choices when buying a vehicle: refuse delivery, or accept delivery and have the manufacturer resolve any issues afterward.

 

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[MarkH]

I agree.

If a buyer inspects a vehicle and finds that it's unacceptable due to build quality/assembly issues, they simply shouldn't buy it.

As you said, in an ideal world no brand new vehicle should leave the plant with any obvious issues. However, things do happen when any product is mass produced, and this thread is proof of that. Is it acceptable in my opinion? No. But the reality is that it happens more often than anyone would like.

The issue here is that the buyer never inspected their purchase before signing, and is now taking to the Internet (like everyone does these days) for sympathy. As I told him, there are 2 choices when buying a vehicle: refuse delivery, or accept delivery and have the manufacturer resolve any issues afterward.

Thank you moderator for jumping in here. Apparently, FordTechOne never read my original posts. So I will state it again just in case any one reading the posts has been lead to believe that I did not inspect the car before purchase. The bends are hard to notice because they were reworked at factory and painted over with factory paint, but in the right light they become obvious and once you see them they stick out like a sore thumb. The body shop manager (Ford sent me to him) did not notice the issues until I pointed them out, once I showed him he saw them all and agreed telling me the only way he would have noticed it was if he had washed the car himself. Take note that this is how I too found the irregularities which is probably the same as many other owners that have noticed it weeks or months after purchase.

The reason I am making it known in this forum is so that other buyers will lower their expectations and look for similar issues and not buy the car if found. For some reason, FordTechOne (not sure why you chose that handle) has taken it upon his/her self to go out of their way to make assumptions and make insults with absolutely nothing to back it up. As for pricing, do some research and you will find that a 2016 Vert, PP with all options does in fact MSRP for $48k -I expect more and not accepting this from Ford or any other manufacturer. Hopefully, others will NOT focus on the noise factor here and pay more attention to what I have to deal with so they do not.

Also, my wide drives a perfect 2013 Highlander Limited, prior she drove a 2005 4Runner SR5, I drove a 2011 Tacoma TRD, had many Nissan's all purchased new and never 1 COMPLAINT. Before all those jap cars I drove US built until they finally pushed me out. Why? Because the foreign cars were mechanically sound and the bodies were all straight.

I pick up my car this Friday and hoping it comes out really great. In fact, if there are no bent panels I may have the only S550 on the planet with a decent body

 

[jasonstang]

I agree.

If a buyer inspects a vehicle and finds that it's unacceptable due to build quality/assembly issues, they simply shouldn't buy it.

As you said, in an ideal world no brand new vehicle should leave the plant with any obvious issues. However, things do happen when any product is mass produced, and this thread is proof of that. Is it acceptable in my opinion? No. But the reality is that it happens more often than anyone would like.

The issue here is that the buyer never inspected their purchase before signing, and is now taking to the Internet (like everyone does these days) for sympathy. As I told him, there are 2 choices when buying a vehicle: refuse delivery, or accept delivery and have the manufacturer resolve any issues afterward.

The way I look at it is yes, the buyer should inspect any issues with the car when purchasing but then what's the point of quality assurance at the factory if it's an on going issues? The letting owners find out mentality is just simply lazy.

 

[KY_V6]

I only saw the 1 picture in this post from the OP. I understand you are not happy with the body fit/build issues. But I would never let them repaint any part of my new car, unless it was wrecked or damaged. I do think that if Ford and the dealer agree there is a build issue, you should have a choice. Either repair or some other compensation.

Good luck.

 

[MarkH]

I only saw the 1 picture in this post from the OP. I understand you are not happy with the body fit/build issues. But I would never let them repaint any part of my new car, unless it was wrecked or damaged. I do think that if Ford and the dealer agree there is a build issue, you should have a choice. Either repair or some other compensation.

Good luck.

I tried to work it out with the dealer but they were not budging. Ford agreed to fix it and will provide papers certifying the work was not due to an accident and supposedly this will not devalue the car. One thing I had to consider was when I go to sell it 5 years from now and the buyer notices it and will think it's been in an unrecorded accident. Now I can prove it wasn't plus the body is now straight. Downside here is the paint work.. if possible, I will pursue it as a lemon.

 

[MarkH]

The way I look at it is yes, the buyer should inspect any issues with the car when purchasing but then what's the point of quality assurance at the factory if it's an on going issues? The letting owners find out mentality is just simply lazy.

Just speculating, but it makes sense that Ford knew there was a problem and took a calculated risk that the public would not notice the issues and they could save money by not having to fix the percentage that went unnoticed or to rental agencies.

 

[MarkH]

Good news for me, body shop couldn't fix it and the dealer stepped up. I'm getting 2017. :-)

 

[Jetboy]

Good news for me, body shop couldn't fix it and the dealer stepped up. I'm getting 2017. :-)

That's good news. Growing up in a body shop my dad's techs were always working on new dealer cars (got their overflow) for body alignment and paint defects. (all brands) This issue is above paint defects. Back then no one knew any different unless the rework was just as bad. ;)

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