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I really can say asking for a friend, my buddy wants to know how his Boss would do against my car on a road course.
Assuming equal drivers, equal tires, and even considering automatic or manual.
He just recently got the red key programmed.
I have driven his car and it's impressive. I say he can take me on a road course, but what do you guys/girls say?
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The Boss is a great car and a little lighter but it has the tractor rear axle so I give the nod to you 😀
 

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I had a ride in both a Boss 302 and 2015 Mustang GT at the Ford Product Development Center right when the '15s were coming out. They said several times that the new car was faster around their test track than the Boss 302 was. Dave Pericak (as mentioned above) was one of them making that statement. The 2019 PP1 has even more power and magneride, so I'm sure it'll be the faster car considering equal drivers. No disrespect to the Boss - those are really cool cars.
 

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This will be a good excuse to drive his car some more. LOL
 

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While not a 100% match, the
- 2019 Mustang GT PP2 did a lap at VIR in 2:53.8.
- 2012 Boss 302 Laguna Seca did a lap at VIR in 3:02.8
- 2015 Mustang GT did a lap at VIR in 3:05.2

I understand you said equal drivers, equal drivers, etc. Something to take away that many people forget. These track times were set on a track with a professional driver. You, nor your friend, are professional drivers and won't be able to put down said lap times. Even though your 2019 PP1 is technically faster and handles better, it could still be a driver's race.

Lightning Lap Results 2006 to 2021: Every Car, Every Lap Time (caranddriver.com)
 

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My understanding is that the BOSS was out dated as soon as the 2015 Performance Package car came out. So the 2019 PP1 with magneride, and definitely the PP2 are better than the BOSS.
This.

Learning early on that the '15 PP car targeted the Boss 302 was the reason I ordered mine, it was all I needed to hear.
 

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see my sig. i have the boss and the 15GTPP.
both great cars. i have not tracked them (attended Boss Track Attack) but normal driving you can feel the difference in both....
although i love driving the boss over the GT. i might look for another boss if i can find what im looking for at the right price....
the 15 is refined. the boss is raw. depends on what you like. i like the raw feel.
and as stated, Dave did say the boss was the benchmark for the 15GTPP.....so
 

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Although I love my '15, the Boss 302 is the only S197 I'd consider going back to the chassis for....
 

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see my sig. i have the boss and the 15GTPP.
both great cars. i have not tracked them (attended Boss Track Attack) but normal driving you can feel the difference in both....
although i love driving the boss over the GT. i might look for another boss if i can find what im looking for at the right price....
the 15 is refined. the boss is raw. depends on what you like. i like the raw feel.
and as stated, Dave did say the boss was the benchmark for the 15GTPP.....so
The Boss really is the Pinnacle of the "original" Mustang formula: v8, manual, solid rear.
 
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Saw the Boss today, I will say my brakes are bigger but I'll bet my car is a lot heavier with all the options.
 

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While not a 100% match, the
- 2019 Mustang GT PP2 did a lap at VIR in 2:53.8.
- 2012 Boss 302 Laguna Seca did a lap at VIR in 3:02.8
- 2015 Mustang GT did a lap at VIR in 3:05.2

I understand you said equal drivers, equal drivers, etc. Something to take away that many people forget. These track times were set on a track with a professional driver. You, nor your friend, are professional drivers and won't be able to put down said lap times. Even though your 2019 PP1 is technically faster and handles better, it could still be a driver's race.

Lightning Lap Results 2006 to 2021: Every Car, Every Lap Time (caranddriver.com)
It sucks that they never tested a Magneride PP1 car.

There is, however, this article;

http://www.mustangandfords.com/news/1711-taking-a-2018-mustang-gt-around-vir
 
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