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How you think Shmee150 manage to buy Ford GT and Senna at the same week ? He is often talking about the UK financing firm that he is using who specialise in providing loans for hyper cars. If you think someone at that level of car purchases is paying cash for a car instead of investing the money in whatever business venture got them at first place. There special financing companies that specialise in that market and you can own super cars with very reasonable monthly payments because they have a huge balloon payment at the end of the loan term. It's very good schema which is why considering what StangMode is planning to do is suggesting he totally don't have a clue how this game is played.
They probably arenā€™t all paying cash, youā€™re correct. But they likely have the assets to do so if needed, or at least put more money down. Ford doesnā€™t want people scraping money together to try to get a down payment together if they really canā€™t afford the car. The last thing they want is one of these halo cars to get taken back by a bank or sold on the cheap to get out of a loan because the original owner couldnā€™t make payments. That was the intent of my comment, apologies that it wasnā€™t clearer. But yes, in general it makes more sense to use other peopleā€™s money (bank) if you can make more on your money invested elsewhere.
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you can own super cars with very reasonable monthly payments because they have a huge balloon payment at the end of the loan term.
this only works if the value at the end of the term is in excess of the balloon. Otherwise you're gonna need to come up with the shortfall at minimum. In a expanding bubble economy the risk is little. When the bubble pops, it's gonna hurt like a MFr.
 

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How you think Shmee150 manage to buy Ford GT and Senna at the same week ? He is often talking about the UK financing firm that he is using who specialise in providing loans for hyper cars. If you think someone at that level of car purchases is paying cash for a car instead of investing the money in whatever business venture got them at first place. There special financing companies that specialise in that market and you can own super cars with very reasonable monthly payments because they have a huge balloon payment at the end of the loan term. It's very good schema which is why considering what StangMode is planning to do is suggesting he totally don't have a clue how this game is played.
If the GTD allocation program works similar to the Ford GT allocation program, Ford will request a 50% down payment from each approved GTD applicant prior to each vehicle being built in Markham therefore this will entail a $150,000 down payment before Multimatic/Ford Performance will proceed.
 

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Thanks and as you can see I have a passion for Blue OTT stripes.

The Shadow Black Track Pack and the Race Red Tech Pack were both 2015 GT350 models and came with Deep Impact Blue OTT stripes.

The 2018 GT350R was a Base model and came with Lightning Blue OTT stripes and of course the 2020 GT350R HE came with Guardsman Blue OTT stripes.

Unfortunately all those vehicles are all gone but to good homes.

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Quite a collection you had there! All beautiful cars.
 

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this only works if the value at the end of the term is in excess of the balloon. Otherwise you're gonna need to come up with the shortfall at minimum. In a expanding bubble economy the risk is little. When the bubble pops, it's gonna hurt like a MFr.
We are talking rare hypercars/supercars build in very small numbers. Most of the time the value of car at say 3-5 years from buying far exceed the initial value of the car. In case of the GTD it will only take 1 Le Mans victory to double the price. Cheapest Ford GT on AutoTempest is $999 800. I'm sure whatever balloon Shmee150 is having on his is far less than that. Buying expensive Hypercar is like buying a house literally you have reasonable down payment a huge balloon but also huge value in the car that is growing. So it just takes a bit of math and market knowledge to take advantage of that and roll your credits into one another until you have enough to cover the cars. Obviously you still have to pay for insurance and storage and maintenance which on an expensive car will be a huge issue. Imagine someone denting your carbon chassis. Which is why we rarely see this hypercars driven. It's very interesting investment strategy that in this economy is working wonders.
 

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If the GTD allocation program works similar to the Ford GT allocation program, Ford will request a 50% down payment from each approved GTD applicant prior to each vehicle being built in Markham therefore this will entail a $150,000 down payment before Multimatic/Ford Performance will proceed.
Which doesn't mean there is no private lender who can give you that downpayment upfront.
 

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Here is a video that Shmee150 explains it in better details.
 

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Here is a video that Shmee150 explains it in better details.
except he didn't explain squat! No spreadsheet, no discussion of "taking out equity" or any of the other jargan, nor actual terms, depreciation schedule, fees, penalties, re-fi hazards, zip! I rarely have YT moments of "that's 20 minutes I won't get back" but this one qualifies.

And I'm sure a hundred million dollar family business as implicit collateral probably greases the skids somewhat.
 

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Here is a video that Shmee150 explains it in better details.
Please.....in the name of all that is good and Holy......no more Schmeeeuck. He's suuuuuuuuuuuuuch a douchebag tosser.
 

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The problem is that the S550/S650 generation feels more like 50% car and the rest you have to rely on the aftermarket for it. It's an ok daily but that's about it in order to make it a performance car you need to spend at least half a car in parts.
I had several of the early models when I was young. Making a Fox track-worthy was a _chore_, and even after you were on track, they were a handful. Anything earlier than that would have been a nightmare.
 

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Which doesn't mean there is no private lender who can give you that downpayment upfront.
Understood but if someone requires that kind of down payment up front I would have to question not only the purchaser but also the lender.
 

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No, Ford is being run by out of touch millionaire marketing douch nozzles, who deserve to be shot for perverting a car into a brand.

Fix the gd paint, the shitty ass A10 trans programming, the sad excuse of magride, and the marshmallow bushings at every critical location.

When you can't get even basics right, it's not time to hob nob with the Richy rich.
Ford has taken a lot of positive steps over the past year in an effort to improve quality. I canā€™t say for sure how well this is going, but the fact that they held up the initial S650 deliveries for quality concerns is at least a sign that theyā€™re trying. I know this is completely anecdotal, but my 22 GT has really good paint and build quality overall.
This all is besides the point anyway. A GT3 track car made by Multimatic isnā€™t likely to have any effect at all on what happens in Fordā€™s factories.
 

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This thing is built by Multimatic. They build race cars. That says enough. The price matches the reported performance.
 

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Gotta love Shmee's energy in every vid I see him in.

That said my thoughts and impressions:
What I like/love about the it:
All the aero and cut-outs appear functional
The front end - honestly the dark horse should've had this front end, we'll see how long it takes the aftermarket to do it for the DH and the GT.
The design of the Magnesium wheels and the fact they are made of forged magnesium
The look of the widebody.
Titanium Exhaust (finally titanium for the V8).
Sport Cup 2R tires
Multimatic Semi Active Suspension (Remember Ford GT's drop)
Swan Neck wing

What I hate:
That cost: My god why can't we have cool cars that are affordable. I feel like ford had a chance to really stick it to Porsche and AMG Black Series but I guess that's the cost of Homologation.
Manual, what's that? Seems ironic that the S650 went on a hole spiel about save the manuals when it was introduced to the world, but whatever I won't be able to afford one anyone.
Weight: Yeah the S550 and the S650 are fat cows, and even with a full carbon fiber body its still going to weigh something due to its inherent bones.
Supercharged V8: Look don't get me wrong I love the sound of a supercharged V8, but my god if just think about the eargasm that could have happened if the car was a tweaked version of the race engine tuned to screaming to 9K RPM (keeping in mind that Porsche's engines are N/A in their GT3 and GT3RS).
Price
Price...
Price.......



The ford GT3 is also N/A and 300 less HP. I prefer a high strung NA car but blowers require less stress as long as heat is managed. I think we need to wait and see what the rich folk suck out of these cars.
This thing is built by Multimatic. They build race cars. That says enough. The price matches the reported performance.
before we all go bonkers with speculation, letā€™s see how it does against the best of the best: I would never count out an insane hybrid AWD hyper car version.
 

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This thing is built by Multimatic. They build race cars. That says enough. The price matches the reported performance.
ā€¦how dare you bring some sagacity to the table in the middle of 18 pages of bench racing, random blasphemy and even some casual nut swinging šŸ˜‚
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