Norm Peterson
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Nope. That gets a raspberry as well, although Porsche at least made the 'Turbo S' tag subordinate to the main model name.But okay to call an all electric model "Turbo S"?
Norm
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Nope. That gets a raspberry as well, although Porsche at least made the 'Turbo S' tag subordinate to the main model name.But okay to call an all electric model "Turbo S"?
Calling chocolate a pollutant!?! How dare you! All the best ice cream flavors have at least some chocolate.I don't like ice cream enough to sample them all. And anyway I like fruity or nutty but insist on no/little pollutants like caramel/chocolate swirled into the pure, simple base stock.
I like raspberry ice cream. Can't find it very often but like it when I do.Nope. That gets a raspberry as well, although Porsche at least made the 'Turbo S' tag subordinate to the main model name.
Norm
I have missed about 4-5 days of this discussion and it has 20 more pages.What I've said from the beginning has been if the Mach E was a good enough product, it wasn't going to need the 'Mustang' tag. And if it wasn't a good enough product, the 'Mustang' tag wouldn't save it.
Time will tell . . .
Norm
Yeah, sry, that's as much bull$hit as the assumption of a stolen election by Trump in that article … although, Trump still has the option to provide evidence so there goes that comparison ;)until the charging infrastructure is fixed, EV adoption will be greatly hampered. It is also a VERY convenient and easy way to deny people freedom of movement - be it driven by simple logistics, or by "politics" nee social credit score.
This is a bit grim but I don't think very offbase. https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=241716
And this is illustrative of the problem even in a tiny-ass country. Note how actual 'range' doesn't remotely match up to claimed. In a gas car the range from a tank of gas is bang-on every single tank.
you completely missed the point!Diesel-Gate was a huge media buzz but everyone knew that the estimated range by every carmaker was as fake as they could be. 6L/100km on the sticker, real world would be around 8
It probably would have gotten off to a slower start, but if it's any good it would pick up almost no matter what they chose to add to the 'Mach E' part. I mean yeah, choosing to use either 'Edsel' or 'Pinto' would more than likely hurt it, but I'd hope that nobody at Ford even mentioned those names.Had they called it just a Mach-E, or Ford Proton, or something like that, I can bet you it would have either tanked or had barely half the interest it actually has.
There was more than enough evidence of a stolen election. The level of evidence would have been sufficient to convict someone of murder. But if the judges decide to ignore the evidence and throw the case out anyway, the American people are screwed and the election is stolen.Yeah, sry, that's as much bull$hit as the assumption of a stolen election by Trump in that article … although, Trump still has the option to provide evidence so there goes that comparison ;)
I think we'll see a steady tapering off of the 'Mustang' and dealer sales and journalists will exclusively call it just the "Mach-E' and the pony badge will likewise disappear to be replaced with some kind of stylized 'Mach'. The triple-tailights will probably endure though.It's really too early to tell whether calling the Mach E a Mustang was a good thing for Ford's bottom line or just a flash in the pan.
Selling well is one thing, product reliability/quality and customer satisfaction is another. There is quite the hubbub going on with many MACH-E customers getting an email from Ford for $1k off and “free charging” due to some delay and quality issues with the ME - a silent campaign. These issues have been posted over in that “other forum” as well as now hitting many automotive news outlets. There has also been recalls on this grand VW skateboard. So reported sales figures vs what is actually happening means diddly. One more thing to mention - the reported sales figures were including DEPOSITS taken on the ME - which is not a true representation of what is really happening for actual units sold and customers actually taking possession of the product.Is now !
Citroen did it with DS - a whole range of DS models
I do think it is all a storm in a teacup. It is what it is and the Mach E is selling well so clearly Ford got it right from a marketing point of view.
Jesus Christ please do not start this political s*it here!There was more than enough evidence of a stolen election. The level of evidence would have been sufficient to convict someone of murder. But if the judges decide to ignore the evidence and throw the case out anyway, the American people are screwed and the election is stolen.
IMO EV/Self-driving has little to do with it. It's a cultural and engineering shift and in 20 years much of the "car" generation will be dead or in nursing homes and cars that are able to be modified will be likewise scarce. A certain percentage of every generation of young men will always have this fascination with going fast in a straight line but short of slapping in 3rd-party ECU there won't be a way to 'hop up' a car that isn't limited to wheels/suspension/exhaust.It's not hyperbole when you are going to witness the death of the car scene in the next 20 years