Dodge Challenger Demon

vernonator · Jan 12, 2017

Voodooo said:
It's still just a FIAT. Woopie

Fixed it for you.... :ford:

Czs550 · Jan 12, 2017

Ford better answer with the gt500 i swear. I get hybrid, electirc, and self driving vechicles are the future, but the future in 20-30 years not the next 5! Ford is pushing all this "city of tomorrow" on us and 90% of us car enthusiast's arent ready for this hybrid bs. I hope they get it together because with dodge doing stuff like this, a hybrid v6 mustang with "v8 like power" is not going to cut it.

BluByeU · Jan 12, 2017

Thanks for posting [MENTION=6364]Twin Turbo[/MENTION], my dad has an SRT Challenger (425h/p). He will be excited when I tell him about this as we go back and forth about Dodge & the Blue Oval.

Strokerswild · Jan 12, 2017

Meh, yet another car I won't be able to afford to buy new.

1320' · Jan 12, 2017

If it's true that this car is the AWD Hellcat..there's going to be some serious salt flowing around..particularly from the Chevy camp since once again the ZL1 will be upstaged very soon after debut..but this time by both Dodge and Ford (if Ford indeed is bringing out a GT500 soon)

BmacIL · Jan 12, 2017

Bullitt said:
Haha I dunno, it's gonna be hard to beat if it's AWD and 800+ HP like the rumors are suggesting. Listening to all these Ford press conferences makes me realize that Ford is fixated on "the city of tomorrow" and the all-electric autonomous future. It kind of makes me lose hope in Ford Performance. Yes, I'm sure they'll put out a few more great models, but I don't think performance models really fit into their long term plan at all sadly. Dodge's plan may be short sighted, but I for one am glad they're churning out all these awesome models while they still can.

Don't lose hope in FP. The GT500 will be a BAMF.

wireeater · Jan 12, 2017

More weight, more horsepower, eh why not!

AWD doesn't automatically make a car awesome. It just depends on how well the system works and how it controls slip and torque. With 800hp it could still be worthless and just add up ending more weight. What systems does FIAT/Dodge have running on AWD platforms that can show how well their system works? I know I remember seeing the Charger was going to be offered in the V6 trim with AWD.

arsenalrocks · Jan 12, 2017

2018+ GT500 needs to be AWD and 800+ hp now, else it won't sell, even with that spec the only advantage over the hell kitty v2 is lighter chassis.

at the end us gearheads is the real winner, unreal times to think you can get an AWD monster 800hp straight out of the show room.

Twin Turbo · Jan 12, 2017

I'm only 46, honest!

BmacIL said:
Don't lose hope in FP. The GT500 will be a BAMF.

I can't believe I just had to Google BAMF

I'll be using that in the future, for sure :ford:

jhols · Jan 12, 2017

Idk how much space there is in the front end of the challenger/charger. The hemi with the supercharger is a tall engine and I wonder if you can get a differential up front let alone one that can handle at least 300 hp. Usually you have to lift the engine up to fit the front running gear for AWD, or at least offset the engine. They added AWD to the v6 cause that is far easier to accomplish.

My money would be more of just a widebody car to compete against the gt500 which is basically just a boosted gt350

daltron · Jan 12, 2017

Where is everyone getting AWD? Even if it is AWD, what are we looking at here, 4,800 pounds 800 HP? The Hellcat is already a boat, adding AWD will add hundreds of more pounds. They talk about tenths in the 1/4 and straight line speed, but ask any drag racer and they will tell you weight is just as important.

wireeater · Jan 12, 2017

jhols said:
Idk how much space there is in the front end of the challenger/charger. The hemi with the supercharger is a tall engine and I wonder if you can get a differential up front let alone one that can handle at least 300 hp. Usually you have to lift the engine up to fit the front running gear for AWD, or at least offset the engine. They added AWD to the v6 cause that is far easier to accomplish.

My money would be more of just a widebody car to compete against the gt500 which is basically just a boosted gt350

Interesting thing. I just purchased a IS250 AWD yesterday for DD and the AWD has a little hump drive side by your feet towards the center console. It's only the AWD that has it', not in the RWD. I guess it was to fit the front differentials in. I guess they could possibly do the same. I honestly didn't even notice it though until I read about it then I was like OH damn, yup there it is.

jhols · Jan 12, 2017

wireeater said:
Interesting thing. I just purchased a IS250 AWD yesterday for DD and the AWD has a little hump drive side by your feet towards the center console. It's only the AWD that has it', not in the RWD. I guess it was to fit the front differentials in. I guess they could possibly do the same. I honestly didn't even notice it though until I read about it then I was like OH damn, yup there it is.

But that is for a tiny 2.5L v6 not a huge 6.4L with a blower on top. That hump is just for the transfer case.

BluByeU · Jan 12, 2017

daltron said:
Where is everyone getting AWD? Even if it is AWD, what are we looking at here, 4,800 pounds 800 HP? The Hellcat is already a boat, adding AWD will add hundreds of more pounds. They talk about tenths in the 1/4 and straight line speed, but ask any drag racer and they will tell you weight is just as important.

^^^The gear-heads understand this fully, it's the guys/gals that get caught up in numbers that don't understand the Challenger is overweight compared to the Camaro & Mustang. It has the most power/torque for an Americam production car, but it leaves a whole lotta "performance" on the table due to its girth. If they ever decided to cut weight on that platform the Challenger would be the wholly grail (at least in stock form - rolling off of the assembly line).

Evolvd · Jan 12, 2017

And it'll also weigh 4500+ lbs...so, no biggie...or is it? LOL

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