Best oil now that Pennzoil changed formula?

[Outlaw]

Edit, Pennzoil platinum changed, Pennzoil ultra platinum/PUP formula remains unchanged during the shortage and damage to shells base. It retains the formula everyone loves according to Pennzoil reps on forums and Pennzoils own official website faq confirms no changes have been made to the ultra platinum line



What the best oil to use now that Pennzoil changed their formula to be 10% worse than it was before due to base shortages. I've only ever run Pennzoil ultra platinum aka PUP and the forums here seem to recommend it heavily. What's the current go to best oil I should start stocking up on? Mobil 1 extended performance? Castrol edge? Valvoline full synthetic normal or valvoline restore and protect? Others? Whats good now, I have a 2017 that I drive hard, 8k rpm shifts, lots of high revs and pushing it. 3k intervals always and I want a good oil because there's a chance the engine is damaged (was out on ramps and drained overnight and forgotten about them started, backed off ramps with a slight rev or 2 after it got off the ramps max like 2-2.5k rpm rev iirc before I realized the light I saw wasn't going away after starting and the oil light was on and I killed it and filled it. No noticable issues since but I make sure I run good oil through it with short intervals to avoid issues.)

Sponsored

 

[CrazyHippie]

It looks like Mobil 1 Extended Performance and Royal Purple are at the top.

I wonder if Red Line is also a good choice?

 

[Cpcloud]

Project farm on YouTube does oil reviews.

What a shame. Pennzoil was the next best to ammsoil without breaking the bank.

 

[Skye]

I'm attaching some reference information on this topic.

Previously, I was made aware of labeling changes to Pennzoil's products. Like many, I hadn't noticed the update.

https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/threads/motor-oil-supply-tightening-up.229377/page-3

Twelve days ago, The Motor Oil Geek posted a video on this topic. A link to that video is in the referenced thread and below.

If you go to the 10-minute mark, he begins to discuss test results between "old" Pennzoil Platinum and PUP and "new" Platinum and PUP.

One topic of interest in the results has to do with Oil Oxidation Stability. In the video, the Motor Oil Geek notes a change in this reading for both Pennzoil Platinum (-10%) and Pennzoil Ultra Platinum (-8%).

Oil Oxidation Stability is a measure of how resilient an engine oil is to breaking down when met with oxygen. All oils breakdown when interacting with oxygen inside an engine. Oil temperature and other factors affect how quickly these chemical processes can occur. The Motor Oil Geek noted the oils tested were less resilient than before.

https://www.machinerylubrication.com/Read/28966/oil-oxidation-stability

https://www.machinerylubrication.com/Read/30165/oil-oxidation-stages

On August 14th, someone purporting to be "-Will Cramer, Pennzoil Product Portfolio Manager", began posting at the Bob The Oil Guy site. In those posts, he clarifies some of the recent changes to Pennzoil's Platinum and Pennzoil's Platinum High Mileage oils. He states PUP's formulation has not changed.

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/pennzoil-ultra-platinum-no-longer-gtl-base.405517/page-15

I recommend picking up ^ this conversation at Will's comments and continuing to the end of the thread.

https://www.pennzoil.com/en_us/performance/pennzoil-formulation.html

If just starting to study this topic, you could begin with these references, maybe read some additional sites. You might come to the conclusion there's nothing to see here. You might sense it's time to change to something else.

Spoiler Alert: the reductions in base stock supplies is a global phenomenon. I doubt Pennzoil is the only company making adjustments.

I'm using PUP in two vehicles. I haven't read anything this morning that makes me want to change. YMMV.

The Motor Oil Geek and other sites are probably discussing what adjustments are taking place industry-wide. With the current talks focusing on Pennzoil, it might be best to wait for some additional testing and results of other products if contemplating a switch.

 

[Unbridled5.0]

I watched that vid the other day. What gets me is he said pennz had began label/formula changing before the war ever began.

 

[GregO]

I watched that vid the other day. What gets me is he said pennz had began label/formula changing before the war ever began.

If what I read is true Shell was in the process of changing the wording. The original stated “Made from GTL” the new wording is or will be “Made with GTL”
The Pearl GTL facility will be under repair and reduced capacity for about the next year. One of two process trains is 100% off-line.

 

[klink]

I'm attaching some reference information on this topic.

Previously, I was made aware of labeling changes to Pennzoil's products. Like many, I hadn't noticed the update.

https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/threads/motor-oil-supply-tightening-up.229377/page-3

Twelve days ago, The Motor Oil Geek posted a video on this topic. A link to that video is in the referenced thread and below.

If you go to the 10-minute mark, he begins to discuss test results between "old" Pennzoil Platinum and PUP and "new" Platinum and PUP.

One topic of interest in the results has to do with Oil Oxidation Stability. In the video, the Motor Oil Geek notes a change in this reading for both Pennzoil Platinum (-10%) and Pennzoil Ultra Platinum (-8%).

Oil Oxidation Stability is a measure of how resilient an engine oil is to breaking down when met with oxygen. All oils breakdown when interacting with oxygen inside an engine. Oil temperature and other factors affect how quickly these chemical processes can occur. The Motor Oil Geek noted the oils tested were less resilient than before.

https://www.machinerylubrication.com/Read/28966/oil-oxidation-stability

https://www.machinerylubrication.com/Read/30165/oil-oxidation-stages

On August 14th, someone purporting to be "-Will Cramer, Pennzoil Product Portfolio Manager", began posting at the Bob The Oil Guy site. In those posts, he clarifies some of the recent changes to Pennzoil's Platinum and Pennzoil's Platinum High Mileage oils. He states PUP's formulation has not changed.

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/pennzoil-ultra-platinum-no-longer-gtl-base.405517/page-15

I recommend picking up ^ this conversation at Will's comments and continuing to the end of the thread.

https://www.pennzoil.com/en_us/performance/pennzoil-formulation.html

If just starting to study this topic, you could begin with these references, maybe read some additional sites. You might come to the conclusion there's nothing to see here. You might sense it's time to change to something else.

Spoiler Alert: the reductions in base stock supplies is a global phenomenon. I doubt Pennzoil is the only company making adjustments.

I'm using PUP in two vehicles. I haven't read anything this morning that makes me want to change. YMMV.

The Motor Oil Geek and other sites are probably discussing what adjustments are taking place industry-wide. With the current talks focusing on Pennzoil, it might be best to wait for some additional testing and results of other products if contemplating a switch.

great info, thank you!

 

[MAGS1]

Olive

 

[Strokerswild]

Olive

Or avocado.

 

[MAGS1]

Or avocado.

I find myself using avocado oil more frequently lately. Good stuff

 

[Outlaw]

Or avocado.

I hear peanut oil works pretty well too

 

[BigR4444]

Ive decided Im switching to Amsoil... theres a place pretty close to me that uses it.

Pennzoil Ult Plat was great because it was almost as good as Amsoil, but at a lower price.... and easier to find in stores.
Its over Pennzoil... we had a good run, but you've changed man....

 

[NightmareMoon]

Amsoil, and with the online membership thing cost is fine.

 

[Outlaw]

Ive decided Im switching to Amsoil... theres a place pretty close to me that uses it.

Pennzoil Ult Plat was great because it was almost as good as Amsoil, but at a lower price.... and easier to find in stores.
Its over Pennzoil... we had a good run, but you've changed man....

Did you check the bobmis the oil guy? Pennzoil has confirmed that platinum formula changed but the Pennzoil ULTRA PLATINUM has remained the same 100% unchanged. At least for now there's no reason to change since the formula has not changed the 8% error shown by lakespeed is contributed to a stop small volume, material handling and repeatability does not show there results. Pennzoils official website even says ultra plat is still a 100% natural gas base in the faq and they can't say that if it's not true.

 

[Outlaw]

Amsoil, and with the online membership thing cost is fine.

What's it run per 5 quart? Pennzoil ultra plat is $35 free shipping and that's inflated from the shortage. I'm seeing amsoil equivalent 60-80 per 5 quart

Sponsored