When building a supercharged street car…

[SheepDog]

Good to know thank you!!. Are the Boss and Predator tensioners the same or two different part #’s? I was told to not do MMR guides or what not as they are wishy washy in quality so going off what you said, new OEM guides, new tensioners, OPG/Sprocket upgrade, and the crank stud kit correct? Small investment to prevent a horrible expense later ideally….

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You will need the longer bolts too


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[Medusa5oh]

https://www.modularmotorsportsracing.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=526

You will need the longer bolts too


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Roger that, thank you very much!

 

[HKusp]

The Boss 302 tensioners are ratcheting and beefier. If you are doing guides and tensioners, you might as well do the whole shebang while you're in there. You're that deep, do the phasers, and solenoids too. FRPP makes a kit. It's about $700 for everything.

 

[Medusa5oh]

Noted, thank you! I got a cart together already, now I’m just trying to decide if I wait to order in a month after my car has already been to Ford Nationals or do I order now and try to get time to install during crunch time. Option A would definitely be a smarter decision

 

[HKusp]

Noted, thank you! I got a cart together already, now I’m just trying to decide if I wait to order in a month after my car has already been to Ford Nationals or do I order now and try to get time to install during crunch time. Option A would definitely be a smarter decision

Don't go by my experience with timing the car as it has been a nightmare. Others have had few if any issues with it. If you want to wait the stock timing components are supposed to be "lifetime of the engine", but we all know the engine is a 400+HP rated engine. The coyote is pretty stout, no doubt, but at close to twice the HP, it can be wise to shore up some things. That being said, if you aren't getting that deep into it right away, you SHOULD be fine, especially at you low for the model year mileage. I would just send it.

If you are paying an hourly rate for a shop to do it and they are already 3/4 of the way there doing other things, then it may behoove you and your wallet to just do it now because that job pays on the books something like 12 hours. If there almost there and you could piggyback on the hours of labor anyway, I would just bite the bullet and do it now. My $.02

 

[Medusa5oh]

Don't go by my experience with timing the car as it has been a nightmare. Others have had few if any issues with it. If you want to wait the stock timing components are supposed to be "lifetime of the engine", but we all know the engine is a 400+HP rated engine. The coyote is pretty stout, no doubt, but at close to twice the HP, it can be wise to shore up some things. That being said, if you aren't getting that deep into it right away, you SHOULD be fine, especially at you low for the model year mileage. I would just send it.

If you are paying an hourly rate for a shop to do it and they are already 3/4 of the way there doing other things, then it may behoove you and your wallet to just do it now because that job pays on the books something like 12 hours. If there almost there and you could piggyback on the hours of labor anyway, I would just bite the bullet and do it now. My $.02

Shop owner also happens to be a family friend so luckily I have the hookup on labor. He suggested the “while I was in there” but I think I’m going to just do the Boss tensioner upgrade kit from LMR for 155$ and send it! I’ll also do a timing/valve cover gasket kit too just to play it safe with those items being removed but other then that we should be good I hope!

 

[Medusa5oh]

Well guys, health stuff kinda got weird again so I thought I might continue to hold off on ESS just due to any medical uncertainty. Seemed a bit irrational to spend all that money with so much up in the air…

BUT alas the Ford Nationals God came down from Detroit Heaven and blessed me with a ESS G3X with a G4 intercooler. Definitely didn’t plan to get an X, really don’t need it, but when you get a sweet deal on a kit because someone’s selling the car it was on for a very short period of time, you just have to do it!

A few small pieces I want to swap, definitely don’t want a 100mm pulley or the velocity stack haha. So Oem intake and bigger pulley are definitely in the cards. Also got a sweet deal at Nationals on the UPR breather catch can! Hopefully after I get OPG installed we can get this on before the end of summer!!

For those who thought I’d never do it, this one’s for you!

 

[Medusa5oh]

I’ll do a full review write up of my tear down and install of timing components, OPG and sprocket, and ESS G3X from the last couple days when I’m not ridiculously tired. Rushed home from work just to load my base file and do a data log. Car is running solid for a base file log, I was shocked but hey that’s what they get paid the big bucks for. Haven’t smiled this hard in a long time. For now enjoy the sounds of idle white noise… GOODNIGHT!

 

[Medusa5oh]

Good Evening Friends!

here is my long awaited write up that I’ll probably break up into short and sweet sections, probably first being tear down and install of OPG and timing components.

The car is done and fully tuned, all I can say is what a ripper while still being easily daily drivable (I took it an hour to work the other day and then back with no issues).

My final setup that I installed was the following:
Engine Upgrades
- Boss 302 timing kit
- Boundary OPG (mw treated)
- boundary CS (with grip surface)
-FFRE crank studs

Boost Kit
ESS G3X with G4 Intercooler
Tial BOV
VMP BAP
GT500 Injectors
UPR Dual Vented Catch Can
(Probably a few odd ball items I’m not remembering)

PT.1: Teardown, timing, and bears OH MY

Teardown and install was a breeze. I pulled everything apart on my lift the weekend after Ford Nationals starting June 13. I took my time a few hours each day of that weekend, as I had stuff I was waiting to arrive anyway so there really was no rush. I laid everything out neatly with its hardware on trash bags on the floor of my shop that way it was easy to locate.

I had the car fully stripped and ready for OPG and timing by Sunday the 14th!

That following week, parts all started to arrive and by Friday the 19th I had it all. I removed the timing components, installed all the new gears and timed the motor. Now besides an old 3 valve mustang I have never timed any OHC motor (let alone DOHC), but I must say following the Ford write up on these forums it’s super easy to do.

I think within 4 hours that same day, I had the entire engine put back together with all new gaskets, boss 302 timing components, and the stuff from boundary! That counts a part store run and dinner, so not too shabby. I went to bed that night knowing that the days to follow would result in a supercharger kit being mounted and ready! Part 2 soon!

 

[Medusa5oh]

Maryland is seeing a crazy heatwave this week, feels like I’m back down in Texas again. Luckily the Mustang is tucked in as I have no desire to drive it in over 100 degree weather and rush hour traffic around 695 daily. Writing this at work in the A/C LOL.

anyway here is Part 2 of my journey!

Saturday we skipped installs because my good buddy Matt (I know you are lurking here somewhere) got married! Congrats my friend thank you again for having me!

Sunday the 21st I did my 5W-50 oil change, new Ford Performance CJ Supercharger spark plugs, GT500 injectors install, and then worked on starting to install the ESS kit. Truthfully this kit takes no time at all to install, I had NASCAR at San Diego playing in the background and got to work.

first I mocked up the intercooler, then started to install all the brackets and spacers for the actual head unit. That took no time at all, honestly the most time consuming part was putting all the rubber intercooler piping in to the right areas through the radiator support. It wasn’t horrible just awkward trying to not get hung up on all factory stuff in the wa (especially the passenger side).

Plus it didn’t help that I forgot to put the fans back on the radiator so I had to redo the piping twice . Oh well excitement got the best of me it wasn’t a huge deal, but after fighting that I got to do the belts (OH BOY!).

Honestly the supercharger belt wasn’t bad, but now with everything installed it definitely doesn’t look enjoyable to do it later. The AC stretch belt took me a few attempts using the ziptie method but that wasn’t bad.

once that head unit was bolted in, reality really started to set in and boy was I excited to get that thing fired up. The last thing I did Sunday night was install the UPR dual vented catch can setup, that was a breeze!

That following day on Monday I got home after work and did the lower radiator hose plumbing, the expansion tank hose, and my VMP BAP (the last thing to arrive). There may be a few other small odd ball things I did but nothing notable.

I also opted to do the ESS Intake in the fender well. My kit came with a velocity stack and although it had metal screening I just didn’t like the idea of anything possibly getting into that unit, especially on a street car (and I imagine IATs are better down low). I did install a pre-filter for extra caution but other than that all was done and ready for tuning/logging!

(This got long so part 3 will be tuning, data logs, and final notes)

 

[Medusa5oh]

Hope everyone had a great 4th and holiday weekend. I figured now would be the perfect time to do the third and final part of the big install!

part 3: tuning, data logs, and fun!

here comes the big controversy (well that is for some), I chose to be tuned by Lund. Now before everyone raises pitchforks and starts to fight over who’s the best tuner, let me explain.

All these years between this build and my last Mustang I’ve always been Lund tuner and super happy. I did inquire with Wengerd just to compare my options but truthfully Lund has already done a handful of revisions for different mods on my car, and it just felt smarter to keep with who already owned my files.

Let me just say huge shoutout to Lund. Cory was able to give me a base file in 24 hours to do a few initial logs, and then had me 100% ready to go by my first revision. Car drove great on the base file but within a few days, due to impending weather, I was able to get all logging done and have a car fully ready a week ahead of my goal, the 4th of July.

I have maybe driven the car 200 miles since being fully together between logs and two trips. I drove it to work a week ago 75 miles round trip and it was amazing!! I cruised great with the a/c in rush hour traffic like nothing. Then the 4th of July I took it out and even in 108 degree weather here in Maryland, which is super uncommon, it was flawless the entire way.

the only trouble I ran into was fuel. My normal station (royal farms) required octane booster for Cory to give me the green light. After doing some discussion and burning up that tank, I filled up with a complete tank of Shell V Power 93, and I sent another log for confirmation and all is good! E85 isn’t as common in my area but maybe with time I will go fuel system to have the adaptability between E85 and Shell 93.

Overall I will say I’m super satisfied. There is definitely some things I want to do with time to expand/enhance the experience. Fuel system, gauges, driveshaft/halfshafts, alternate set of wheels, and most certainty rear gears. 3.73 are definitely fun but a bit too short to stay in boost on this stick car. I got my goal of fast, but basically daily driven capable street car. Besides all the fun noises and the increase in power, this thing is very easy to manage with short shifts and overdrive.

I will continue to update this build thread with time and more mods…. but we can successfully say we reached our main goal in only a few short years!

 

[diambo4life]

Where are some dragys? I hope you have some sticky-ickys...

 

[HKusp]

Hope everyone had a great 4th and holiday weekend. I figured now would be the perfect time to do the third and final part of the big install!

part 3: tuning, data logs, and fun!

here comes the big controversy (well that is for some), I chose to be tuned by Lund. Now before everyone raises pitchforks and starts to fight over who’s the best tuner, let me explain.

All these years between this build and my last Mustang I’ve always been Lund tuner and super happy. I did inquire with Wengerd just to compare my options but truthfully Lund has already done a handful of revisions for different mods on my car, and it just felt smarter to keep with who already owned my files.

Let me just say huge shoutout to Lund. Cory was able to give me a base file in 24 hours to do a few initial logs, and then had me 100% ready to go by my first revision. Car drove great on the base file but within a few days, due to impending weather, I was able to get all logging done and have a car fully ready a week ahead of my goal, the 4th of July.

I have maybe driven the car 200 miles since being fully together between logs and two trips. I drove it to work a week ago 75 miles round trip and it was amazing!! I cruised great with the a/c in rush hour traffic like nothing. Then the 4th of July I took it out and even in 108 degree weather here in Maryland, which is super uncommon, it was flawless the entire way.

the only trouble I ran into was fuel. My normal station (royal farms) required octane booster for Cory to give me the green light. After doing some discussion and burning up that tank, I filled up with a complete tank of Shell V Power 93, and I sent another log for confirmation and all is good! E85 isn’t as common in my area but maybe with time I will go fuel system to have the adaptability between E85 and Shell 93.

Overall I will say I’m super satisfied. There is definitely some things I want to do with time to expand/enhance the experience. Fuel system, gauges, driveshaft/halfshafts, alternate set of wheels, and most certainty rear gears. 3.73 are definitely fun but a bit too short to stay in boost on this stick car. I got my goal of fast, but basically daily driven capable street car. Besides all the fun noises and the increase in power, this thing is very easy to manage with short shifts and overdrive.

I will continue to update this build thread with time and more mods…. but we can successfully say we reached our main goal in only a few short years!

You don't need a dedicated E85 tune here in the Baltimore area (which I believe you are near because you mentioned driving the Baltimore beltway). Most of the RoFo's in the area have flex and I have never seen it test below E70 and that is in the winter. In the summer, it usually tests HIGHER than E85. If you can get Lund to do an E70 tune, just to be on the safe side, you should be good to go for the benefits of running ethanol. That V-power gets pricey. If you're worried about it, get a test kit and test at every fill-up.

 

[Medusa5oh]

Where are some dragys? I hope you have some sticky-ickys...

Working on a special project for this winter, those will be coming soon!

 

[Medusa5oh]

You don't need a dedicated E85 tune here in the Baltimore area (which I believe you are near because you mentioned driving the Baltimore beltway). Most of the RoFo's in the area have flex and I have never seen it test below E70 and that is in the winter. In the summer, it usually tests HIGHER than E85. If you can get Lund to do an E70 tune, just to be on the safe side, you should be good to go for the benefits of running ethanol. That V-power gets pricey. If you're worried about it, get a test kit and test at every fill-up.

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