New Oil filter FL2087 to FL2087A

[davidfigs]

First and foremost, I did a search, read the comments and there wasn't a recent collective thread discussing this topic.

The GT500 forums are going nuts https://www.fordgt500.com/threads/oil-filter-comparison-fl-2087-vs-fl-2087-a.209594/ in regards to this superseded part number from ford.

To give people context reading this for the first time, this is specific as of 2024 that Ford is no longer producing FL-2087 and superseded the part # to FL-2087-A.

Differences (visually)
FL-2087 plastic coverings on both ends and a metal core
FL-2087-A no plastic coverings and a plastic core

Now we all know there has been a handful of different filters for our platform and most recently there was a huge shortage during the pandemic on the FL2087.

I am not an engineer nor that well versed in this realm but I own and track my 2017 GT350R and still have bumper to bumper ford warranty until 2030. I do mostly my own maintenance and avoid dealerships at all costs outside of warranty work.

I recently did an oil change and reluctantly put on the new part number last week(its been less than 300 miles since). My thought process was - full warranty, engine blows up and techs pull out a non oem filter - they MAY decline the warranty.

After spending the past week reading different comments... i decided to start trying to find the original FL2087 and found 6 at a ford dealer within an hour from my house and will end up changing back (for piece of mind).

Ford invests a ton of money in R&D and I find it hard to believe they would supersede a part without making the new one "better" Everyone i've talked too from random techs, part guys, race shops, track drivers, all of them said they would prefer a metal filter vs a plastic one.

I don't want this to be fearmongering post by any means, i just wanted this thread to be a single source for current, former, and future owners to discuss this superseded part number as of 2024.

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[davidfigs]

Christmas came early, found these locally

 

[melown]

Wow, this is an outrage!!! Thanks for the info, and seems like it was talked about on GT500 forums too. I've only used the metal FL2087 and would not be satisfied with a plastic core filter. Another reason to never let the dealer change your oil.

edit: there is a 20 page thread on the GT500 forms about this. A bit inconclusive still some of them claim that the new filter is OK for gt350 but gonna wait for further analysis before I use -A version

 

[NPTR]

Has anyone heard the official Ford logic here? Assume “cost” is the easy one but why would they care about cost on a part that just about everyone is paying out of pocket for, and is so minimal and ultimately essential…so cost/benefit analysis would really skew toward not making the change unless it was fully vetted…

I want to have faith that Ford wouldn’t have made the change unless put through some serious stress tests…I get the design is less comforting, but so was the plastic cheap oil plug to me at first and then I regretted ever changing it.

Has anyone heard of this new filter design failing, or is it just concerns about the potential for that given weakened structural rigidity? My gut is that the design of the housing reduces the need for the extra structural rigidity, but I’m no engineer…

 

[gww52]

I'll post this again. The 2087A is the same design as the 2005-2006 FGT filter.
I've changed the oil in my FGT 20 times and the filters always came out looking
perfect. So the 2087A design is at least 20 years old.

 

[matthewr87]

Several months ago the fact that the FL-2087 was superseded came to my attention and I was able to buy a few FL-2087 filters at a reasonable price (~$25 each). Now they are selling for > $50 each when you can find them.

Eventually they will all be gone and the vaunted FL-2087 will fade into myth and legend.

 

[davidfigs]

I'll post this again. The 2087A is the same design as the 2005-2006 FGT filter.
I've changed the oil in my FGT 20 times and the filters always came out looking
perfect. So the 2087A design is at least 20 years old.

These motors have very high NVH as we all know so it's hard to understand something that works across platform for 20 years will work for motors/race cars like this...

Has anyone heard the official Ford logic here? Assume “cost” is the easy one but why would they care about cost on a part that just about everyone is paying out of pocket for, and is so minimal and ultimately essential…so cost/benefit analysis would really skew toward not making the change unless it was fully vetted…

I want to have faith that Ford wouldn’t have made the change unless put through some serious stress tests…I get the design is less comforting, but so was the plastic cheap oil plug to me at first and then I regretted ever changing it.

Has anyone heard of this new filter design failing, or is it just concerns about the potential for that given weakened structural rigidity? My gut is that the design of the housing reduces the need for the extra structural rigidity, but I’m no engineer…

I totally agree with you and hence why I just bit the bullet and installed the new filter.. fear got the best of me and was fortunate enough to find 6 non a filters so now I got to figure out if I change <300 mile fresh oil or just try to change the filter out and top it off..

 

[Booboo]

Whats the shelf life of these filters? Google said anywhere from 6-15 years and that the limiting factor is the drying out of the rubber parts. Hmm maybe store unused filters in a humidor hmmm

 

[CANTWN4LSN]

These motors have very high NVH as we all know so it's hard to understand something that works across platform for 20 years will work for motors/race cars like this...

Not an engineer but just curious what NVH would have to do with oil flow through a filter.

 

[Skye]

Whats the shelf life of these filters?

https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/th...-or-cartridge-shelf-life.174297/#post-4082159

This is a thread I contributed to previously. If stored correctly, they can last for many years.

 

[JAJ]

Not an engineer but just curious what NVH would have to do with oil flow through a filter.

Your very rational and relevant question made me smile. With the Voodoo engine, the "V" in NVH caused the original 2015-2017 spin on oil filters that weren't properly tightened to stop engine oil flow when they fell off. Voodoo vibration is a challenge. Whether it affects the cartridge filter is unknown but I doubt it.

 

[davidfigs]

I'm curious if anyone has ever changed just the oil filter? I have sub 300 miles on my oil change and don't want to have to do another oil change just to change the filter... And maybe I have too.

Is it possible to just change the oil filter (since oil pan sits lower than the filter) and just top it off with new oil?

 

[JAJ]

I'm curious if anyone has ever changed just the oil filter? I have sub 300 miles on my oil change and don't want to have to do another oil change just to change the filter... And maybe I have too.

Is it possible to just change the oil filter (since oil pan sits lower than the filter) and just top it off with new oil?

Yes.

 

[davidfigs]

Yes.

Any idea on how many quarts typically sits in the oil filter housing?

 

[galaxy]

Any idea on how many quarts typically sits in the oil filter housing?

Ounces, not quarts. I’d say 8-10 at absolute most.

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