gt350 vs c7 vette

[bluebeastsrt]

Forget the C7 a Camaro 16 SS will clean up on a 350 nonR ...because of the tri Y headers. It puts out more power then a C7. Same A8 and mag ride and more power. Head2head not far off. Stay tuned.

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[Khyber]

only gm i would ever own would be a vette.

 

[Ninjak]

Forget the C7 a Camaro 16 SS will clean up on a 350 nonR ...because of the tri Y headers. It puts out more power then a C7. Same A8 and mag ride and more power. Head2head not far off. Stay tuned.

Ummm you say this because it can run the 1/4 in 12.1 12.3 in the MAGS btw, and the 350 which IS NOT a drag car is slower.....according to the mags.

Where is this h2h on a ROAD COURSE that the 16 SS has ran ? As a matter of fact what road course has the 16 SS run at all ? Its funny how people gleam all of this info from a magazine article.

Now if they put a 16 SS out there and t runs better so be it. But that would make it also faster than the 1LE, ZL1, and probably on the heals of a Z28. Somehow I doubt if the SS is a super car. Its built well mind you, but its not the end all of all street cars by a long shot.

 

[Rick R]

I have a lot of respect for the C7, but I'd take the high rpm track ready car with the flat crank aspirated engine instead.

 

[aspensilver]

I have a lot of respect for the C7, but I'd take the high rpm track ready car with the flat crank aspirated engine instead.

Agree on the track the 350 will be the more rewarding and enjoyable experience w/ that engine. Much more unique experience!

 

[ARS1]

Agree on the track the 350 will be the more rewarding and enjoyable experience w/ that engine. Much more unique experience!

Have you felt the handling of a C7? With the rear mounted trans the car is much more planted feeling than any of the S550's I think could ever be. With it in Track mode even with all the nannies off you have to really try to get it to get squirly. 155-160 I know feels like nothing in the C7. I'd have to drive a 350 but my ass might pucker a little bit knowing how light the ass end can get in an S550 in a hurry.

 

[9secondko]

Have you felt the handling of a C7? With the rear mounted trans the car is much more planted feeling than any of the S550's I think could ever be. With it in Track mode even with all the nannies off you have to really try to get it to get squirly. 155-160 I know feels like nothing in the C7. I'd have to drive a 350 but my ass might pucker a little bit knowing how light the ass end can get in an S550 in a hurry.

Have YOU felt the handling of the 350?

That is the flip side.

 

[9secondko]

Agree on the track the 350 will be the more rewarding and enjoyable experience w/ that engine. Much more unique experience!

The engine of course takes a dump on the GM engines.

But a car designed around two seats is far easier to make handle and go fast than a car designed around four.

That's why they aren't in the same class. But until the GT is out, the Mustanf will continue to be compared to Corvette, Viper, etc. really says something about the Mustang.

 

[Sasuketr]

The engine of course takes a dump on the GM engines.

But a car designed around two seats is far easier to make handle and go fast than a car designed around four.

That's why they aren't in the same class. But until the GT is out, the Mustanf will continue to be compared to Corvette, Viper, etc. really says something about the Mustang.

Well thats the problem! You are designing a track car with a back seat on top of it, you are removing the back seat for the R model and leaving that space useless! Removing the back seat actually shifts the center of mass to the front and makes it worse, however the entire car looses 60 lbs so who gives a s....

Why not take the entire back seat portion out, make the car two seater, shorter, smaller and lighter? Also it will help to shift the center of mass from front to middle with the aid of the position of the driver!

 

[9secondko]

Well thats the problem! You are designing a track car with a back seat on top of it, you are removing the back seat for the R model and leaving that space useless! Removing the back seat actually shifts the center of mass to the front and makes it worse, however the entire car looses 60 lbs so who gives a s....

Why not take the entire back seat portion out, make the car two seater, shorter, smaller and lighter? Also it will help to shift the center of mass from front to middle with the aid of the position of the driver!

There is s car for that. Its called the Ford GT.

THE THING with mustangs and Camaros is designing a car for the everyman that runs with the sports cars and even beats many of them. It starts with a compromise of performance and convenience with a heavy lean toward performance. That's pony car 101.

The times when the Mustang runs with / beats / comes very close to the vette is having the cake and eating it too.

It's basically doing what's not supposed to be done. And it feels dang good.

 

[Sasuketr]

There is s car for that. Its called the Ford GT.

THE THING with mustangs and Camaros is designing a car for the everyman that runs with the sports cars and even beats many of them. It starts with a compromise of performance and convenience with a heavy lean toward performance. That's pony car 101.

The times when the Mustang runs with / beats / comes very close to the vette is having the cake and eating it too.

It's basically doing what's not supposed to be done. And it feels dang good.

We are not talking about a mustang or mustang gt here! It is the track monster GT350, which is only designed for one purpose only, to dominate the road coarse! Ford GT is in a super car category not even in the same league!

 

[9secondko]

Dude. For real?

It's a track monster MUSTANG. EVERYTHING I SAID APPLIES. ITS BASICALLY A HOT ROD MUSTANG IN TERMS OF HANDLING. it's still a Mustsng. But it's making a case for greatness.

If there are multiple versions of the Ford GT Thdn you can discuss Fords track monster version of its two seater. Simple really. You are trying to make a point that doesn't exist.

And FYI the mustang regardless of model isn't in the same class as the vette either. That why it's so awesome when it

a) keeps up

B) whoops it

C) isn't far behind

Time to just give credit where it's due.

A car in a different league is punching way above its weight class.

Nothing but praise should be given.

 

[Sasuketr]

Dude. For real?

It's a track monster MUSTANG. EVERYTHING I SAID APPLIES. ITS BASICALLY A HOT ROD MUSTANG IN TERMS OF HANDLING. it's still a Mustsng. But it's making a case for greatness.

If there are multiple versions of the Ford GT Thdn you can discuss Fords track monster version of its two seater. Simple really. You are trying to make a point that doesn't exist.

And FYI the mustang regardless of model isn't in the same class as the vette either. That why it's so awesome when it

a) keeps up

B) whoops it

C) isn't far behind

Time to just give credit where it's due.

A car in a different league is punching way above its weight class.

Nothing but praise should be given.

Think about it, against a camaro ford has the mustang, against the corvette now ford has the gt350, but ford gt has no gm competitor cause its a unique class, but i heard a c7-8 zora zr1 is coming so that might be the solution!

Back to gt350, yes the car handles great now and all but why still have a back seat space on a track car with no seats and carry that excess weight for the R version? I am an engineer and it doesn't make sense to me! If you are okay taking the back seat out for weight saving reasons, why not actually take that entire space out of the car and make the car lighter, smaller and better well balanced! Nobody is buying the gt350 for its back seat! If you want a family hauler get a sedan or maybe a mustang gt!

Think about it for a second!

 

[Tony Alonso]

I am an engineer and it doesn't make sense to me! If you are okay taking the back seat out for weight saving reasons, why not actually take that entire space out of the car and make the car lighter, smaller and better well balanced! Nobody is buying the gt350 for its back seat! If you want a family hauler get a sedan or maybe a mustang gt!

Think about it for a second!

As an engineer, I assume you know that you would essentially be designing an entirely new platform, with the development and testing costs amortized over a certain volume for which people would want to pay and simultaneously allow Ford to make money.

The GT350/350R, for the platform on which it is built, has been track-tuned to a great degree and offers a compelling value proposition because of the closeness of its performance to that Vette, if you compare MSRP sans ADM. Of course, this is my opinion and perhaps an oversimplification, but I think it's reasonable.

OP - one year later, and we finally get a thread on this.

 

[Sasuketr]

As an engineer, I assume you know that you would essentially be designing an entirely new platform, with the development and testing costs amortized over a certain volume for which people would want to pay and simultaneously allow Ford to make money.

The GT350/350R, for the platform on which it is built, has been track-tuned to a great degree and offers a compelling value proposition because of the closeness of its performance to that Vette, if you compare MSRP sans ADM. Of course, this is my opinion and perhaps an oversimplification, but I think it's reasonable.

OP - one year later, and we finally get a thread on this.

Correct, it would be a new platform. Ford might have used the mustang s550 platform as a foundation for the gt350 but with that it also carried some flaws with it such as weight and weight distribution. Even without the ADM's the gt350 price is pretty close to a vette, with ADM gt350r price is even on par with a c7zo6.

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