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I hope it has substantial changes. There are plenty of cars just like ours already.
 

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Blue Stitching for 2017..."Blue Flame"..."BlueByU"...something.

2015, Redline
2016, Yellow Jacket
 

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Ford focus RS in the Ecoboost, basically a slightly revised turbo and tune and it's 345 hp on all factory parts, (Call it The SVO) Voodoo cross plane Engine in the Mustang GT, 3.5 Ecoboost out of the Ford-GT into the new Mach 1
Done
IMHO there is no business case for the 2.7 in the Mustang, it would Easily overpower the coyote with just bolt-on's and a Tune unless ford kneecapped it worse than they did to the 2.3 (Intercooler so terrible it could only have been designed that way on purpose and a deliberately restrictive downpipe)
The overwhelming majority of Mustang owners don't modify their cars, so I doubt Ford is concerned about what the aftermarket does. If this were true, neither of the automakers that offer the same turbo engine with different tune states would sell any higher end models, but we all know this to be false.
 

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The overwhelming majority of Mustang owners don't modify their cars, so I doubt Ford is concerned about what the aftermarket does. If this were true, neither of the automakers that offer the same turbo engine with different tune states would sell any higher end models, but we all know this to be false.
While I agree, most owners will not modify the car the deliberate restrictions built into the Ecoboost Show Ford didn't want to make it easy to just dail up the boost on the engine.

My second point still stands, it would cost Ford less to make the same power as the 2.7 eb with the 2.3 eb
 

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D.I., M.R, 10speed auto, Weight reduction dont go hand in hand. 3,500 lbs mustang days are over.
I am hoping for aluminium front suspension, and a 15hp bump its more realistic.
 

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All models: Aluminum door shells, roof and deck lid. Aluminum front and rear crash bars. This should give a solid 75lb weight loss across the board without messing with the brakes or suspension at all.

10 speed auto replaces 6 speed on all models.

EcoBoost: RS update to 345 HP/345 TQ, PP suspension and brakes standard.

GT: DI/PI 5.0, revised intake manifold for higher RPM breathing to make 455 HP/410 TQ. Revised standard suspension and brakes, drive modes standard on base GT. PP available for autos, FRPP handling pack standard for GTPP.

Mach 1/Bullitt/etc: CPC 5.2, DI/PI, revised cams, GT350 style manifold/intake and exhaust for 485 HP/425 TQ, FRPP handling pack standard, FRPP half shafts standard. "TorqueThrust" style wheels again, 255/285 F&R All seasons standard, MPSS optional on lightweight 19" rims.

GT350: DI/PI and revised cams for 550 HP /435 TQ.
 

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If ford reduce the current resonator on s550 to 1/2 it would save few lbs.
 

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While I agree, most owners will not modify the car the deliberate restrictions built into the Ecoboost Show Ford didn't want to make it easy to just dail up the boost on the engine.

My second point still stands, it would cost Ford less to make the same power as the 2.7 eb with the 2.3 eb
What restrictions are those? How do you know they are restrictions as a response to the aftermarket and not adequate pairings?

Perhaps it would be cheaper, but a 350hp 2.7L 6-cylinder will outperform a 350hp 2.3L 4-cylinder while returning the same or better fuel economy at the limit, better reliability, and better NVH characteristics which are important considerations in a gran tourer with sporty pretensions.

Horsepower is a function of torque and engine speed, and the 2.7L makes 375-380lb-ft at peak, significantly more than the 2.3L at any given engine speed. With the same horsepower, they're still not equal and thats with the 2.7L in a "mild" state. Now imagine an uncorked engine making 380hp and 400lb-ft+ at the crank in stock form and returning fuel similar to the 3.7L.

I would happily pay a premium for the 2.7L.
  • Car and Driver-2015 F150 2.7L: 5200lb. = 0-60 in 5.6s
 
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Ok the intercooler is the worst design I have ever seen. Who in the world still uses a tube and fin design that small in a air to air design? EVERY single 90s turbo car I have owned has had a more efficient and less restrictive intercooler. The fact that I can pick up a Chinese piece of junk for $50 on ebay that will destroy your "adequate pairing" in efficiency and flow. The only time the stock IC is close to adequate is on a winter day. I was logging charge temps 30-60 deg above ambient in August after a barely spirited drive. No one who passed a course in engineering could design something that bad by mistake. Tube and fin are also more expensive to produce than bar and plate. Even someone like me who only took two engineering classes before I switched to IT knows tube and fin should only be used in liquid to air applications. I will post pics of the downpipe next week. Why in the f... would you crimp a round exhaust into a smaller rectangular shape which screws up flow and causes turbulence to go back to a round shape. That requires a custom flex section which costs more to make and the additional step to crimp both round pipes. Space and ground clearance are both non issues in the stock location. Given how much thought was put into the stock exhaust. Which requires no gaskets and is very free flowing for such a quiet system. Same goes for the intake. Extremely good for a factory system. So basically you are proposing that they hired all stars to design the intake and Catback and hired stoners to design the worst possible, two most important parts of a turbocharged car.
 

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I thought the new Raptor is going to be 3.5 V6 Ecoboost only :shrug:
They finally said the V8 would be an option in '18 possibly late year '17 but more than likely not. They would loose a lot of sales as a V6 only 3 in my house alone...
 

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New color is called Lightning Blue
 

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I am hoping for dual injection on the ecoboost engines, most of the manufacturers that make turbos with direct injection went over to that type of system after carbon build-up on the valves occurred.
And I agree with the 2.7 ecoboost, that would be my go to car here on Germany, efficient but still not as expensive tax wise as the 5.0
 

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