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I forgot about that damn welded cat. There's no way these will be CARB exempt due to that. If somehow it skates by, maybe the smog shop wouldn't be able to tell what you did...but that's a risk. Or weld up the flange so it bolts on like the passenger side, and looks the same.
the instructions that BBK has on this item require flanges to be welded onto both cats.
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In that case, it's definitely not worth the effort and cash. Long tubes are the only option, or get cat delete pipes.
 

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I have an ngauge and tune coming. gonna see if it works with MMR then if it doesn't, take it to the range and fill it with holes. if it doesn't work, ill stick with stock airbox until something else comes along. I have a feeling we will see a lot of new product releases mid November.

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Instead of filling it with holes, put some tannerite in it before you shoot at it.
 

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Just a random thought, why not just do cat deletes and when it's time for inspection re-install them just long enough for inspection then put the cat delete pipes back on?
 

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Be very careful.

Even with a CA EO number, cat replacement is tricky. On a new car, they can require you to prove that the original cats were damaged or defective; you don't have the right to simply change out the cats even for legal cats. Love California!
 

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He's not replacing cats...but it would be a modification to the emissions system if they want to get technical, because you cut off the cat, welded on a flange to it, and bolted it back up.
 

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He's not replacing cats...but it would be a modification to the emissions system if they want to get technical, because you cut off the cat, welded on a flange to it, and bolted it back up.
They get technical. A missing sticker on a CAI will fail you. I think the suggestion up the board to just do cat deletes and swap them back on for the test is maybe better advice.
 
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Just a random thought, why not just do cat deletes and when it's time for inspection re-install them just long enough for inspection then put the cat delete pipes back on?
volume. too much attention then having to deal with a state ref if found to not have cats. would rather fly under the radar.
 

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They get technical. A missing sticker on a CAI will fail you. I think the suggestion up the board to just do cat deletes and swap them back on for the test is maybe better advice.
Good idea in theory, but still bad advice for us...still cutting the stock manifold, thus tampering with the OEM smog equipment. Thus a fail for CA inspection.

Regardless of putting the stock cats back on. They'd be cut and welded on one side with the cat deletes, and welded on both sides with the shorties posted in the OP.

We're screwed in CA.

Long Tubes and crossed fingers for 7 years, or stock manifolds.

This damn new manifold sucks!
 

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Good idea in theory, but still bad advice for us...still cutting the stock manifold, thus tampering with the OEM smog equipment. Thus a fail for CA inspection.

Regardless of putting the stock cats back on. They'd be cut and welded on one side with the cat deletes, and welded on both sides with the shorties posted in the OP.

We're screwed in CA.

Long Tubes and crossed fingers for 7 years, or stock manifolds.

This damn new manifold sucks!
You can make the cat deleted a true bolt on system once on. Just have to weld a flange onto the factory cat that you cut off
 

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If I was touching cats at all I would go with kooks 7/8 LT like most others and get the corsa sports
if I had GT that is
 

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You can make the cat deleted a true bolt on system once on. Just have to weld a flange onto the factory cat that you cut off

I don't think you understand what we are up against here in CA.

You cannot modify the oem smog equipment, period. Meaning, I can't cut the cat off the manifold and weld a flange and still pass smog.

At that point, I have modified the oem smog equipment.

Even when you swap the cats back in, they have been modified and will be an instant visual fail.

Sadly...

CA living. Beautiful women, amazing weather, beaches/desert/mountains/flat lands all in one place. However, our laws suck!
 

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I don't think you understand what we are up against here in CA.

You cannot modify the oem smog equipment, period. Meaning, I can't cut the cat off the manifold and weld a flange and still pass smog.

At that point, I have modified the oem smog equipment.

Even when you swap the cats back in, they have been modified and will be an instant visual fail.

Sadly...

CA living. Beautiful women, amazing weather, beaches/desert/mountains/flat lands all in one place. However, our laws suck!
Dang I knew they were strict from what my uncle has told me didn't know they were that stingy, I told him I would drive out one week and see him, would my car be illegal then even tho I'm from a different state?
 
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Dang I knew they were strict from what my uncle has told me didn't know they were that stingy, I told him I would drive out one week and see him, would my car be illegal then even tho I'm from a different state?
no. only if registered in the state of california.
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