Regarding Auto trans.

[friendgr]

OK, after my recent short test drive with ecoboost Auto I have some questions to ask.
I strongly trust you rather than the dealer.......

1) when the lever is in D (drive) position I tried the paddles and they didn't work at all. Is that correct?

2) when the lever is also in D position, when I floor the pedal the car always hesitated almost two seconds and after begin to accelarate. Very frustrating lag. Is that correct?

3) I changed position and I selected S. The accel. pedal responded instantly . Can I change D to S or vise versa when the car is in motion?

4) what do you do when you drive in D position, and suddenly Schumacher wakes up inside you and you want to accelarate the car shifting with the paddles? other cars even when in D position when you floor the pedal, automatically change to Sport position and paddles are always active.

5) the software modes does they work on D position or only on S? Dealer didn't allow me to play with modes......


Don't prompt me to search the net. I feel more familiar within European community. Thanks in advance

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[NewMustangDE]

On my GT it works like this.....i would imagine that the EB auto should work the same way.

1. When in D, i can still use the paddles.

2. No, not correct. The reaction on mine is instant. No hesitation or lag to speak of.

3. Yes, you can move the lever as you wish between D and S while car is in motion.

4. The GT at least does not change into S mode by flooring the pedal. Putting the lever into S does and the car becomes a total lunatic in S mode you have full control of the paddles and like many other cars gearbox will only change up when redlining it. Acceleration in S is fantastic

5. Selecting S mode using the gear lever is the same as selecting S mode using the toggle switches.

It does sound as the EB auto you tried may not be 100%. I would suggest you try another one, just to compare.

 

[Notes]

Don't have any lag issues on my EB, in S en S+ the car breaks a bit more on the engine when stop giving gas, the sound is a bit different also due to the engine breaking. I had to get used to that.

1) Yes you can still use them, although in this setting the car has a forget function. When you stop using the paddles the car goes full auto again.

2) I think this depends in what gear you are at that moment. Road conditions, oil temperature, gearbox fluid temperature etc.

No matter what, it takes some time getting to know the car. Another matter could be the learn function, the software learns your driving skills and adapts it's shifting to it until you unplug the battery and have the car relearn. Nice feature when done right from the start!

3) Yes

4) Step on the gas (and use the paddles if you like)

5) Do you mean the track apps? Most are track only, but I noticed some work in Sport +, in track only you loose the traction control. The manual has some good yet vague info on it.

On my GT it works like this.....i would imagine that the EB auto should work the same way.

5. Selecting S mode using the gear lever is the same as selecting S mode using the toggle switches.

There is a difference though, Select S with the gear lever doesn't change the steering feel, S+ does.

 

[gojensen]

2) was the same reaction I had when driving the 2013 V6 auto... when I wanted to bypass a slow driver I needed to find space and time it correct because it would take 1-2 seconds from I floored the pedal till the car actually did a "kick down" (change gear down and accelerate)... this worked much better on my 1973 Toyota Auto (sorry, last auto car I drove before the Mustang arrives, autos are not really normal up here... well at least until the recent E.V. revolution)

 

[friendgr]

Thanks alot for your useful info. Now I m really confused. I m pretty sure that paddles didn't work at D position. Also Im pretty sure that flooring the pedal in D position there was a huge lag. I tried in purpose several times. Every time , was a significant lag.
I hope I'm wrong.

The dealer told me get the V8 if you dont want lag. I replied: Will you pay the taxes?

 

[friendgr]

5. Selecting S mode using the gear lever is the same as selecting S mode using the toggle switches.

It does sound as the EB auto you tried may not be 100%. I would suggest you try another one, just to compare.

Do you mean that you can change to S eventhough the gear lever remains in D position ?

The car was a demo for potential customers and for journalists.

 

[friendgr]

Maybe a sprintbooster can decrease the lag a bit.

 

[friendgr]

4) Step on the gas (and use the paddles if you like)
.

That is what Im telling you. 2 seconds lag , paddles didnt work.

I repeat, that it was 10 minutes test drive So I may have wrong impression.

 

[R3v]

1, Paddles work in D, they just switch off after a while if unused so you can't damage the engine with a wrong gear.

2, Yep, there is a significant lag in D for a turbo engine, in comparison to S. It's meant for a more recreational ride, city traffic, etc.

3+4, You can change between D and S any time. Anyway, if you floor the pedal in D, you will get full throttle and power as well, it'll just take one or two secs more.

If you are so concerned about that D lag, just use S. I drive on S plenty of time, sometimes you even have lower consumption. Or use Sport+ mode.

 

[friendgr]

But in S mode , paddles are mandatory for shifting unless you race and hit redlines for autoshifting. Correct?

 

[R3v]

No. You can ride with S and don't use paddles at all. The same goes with Sport+ mode which acts similar to S even when you have it in D. S mode just makes the car much more responsive and removes the throttle lag. By default, it is still automatic.

You need to use paddles at first if you want to go to a semi-manual mode. Even then, there still should be an idiot protection and the car will shift for you if there is a risk of damaging the engine.

You can read more about it here - https://owner.ford.com/how-tos/maintenance/engine/selectshift-automatic-transmission.html

 

[deep south]

As with most modern auto's, the Mustang box will change up or down as it needs to - to protect the engine, so if you "downshift" and would exceed max revs then the box won't "change gear". Sport mode tweaks the change points.

For the EB there will probably always be some kind of "lag" (floor throttle, downshift, turbo spins, power kicks in..) and when I get mine next year I'll let you know how it goes!

 

[R3v]

For the EB there will probably always be some kind of "lag" (floor throttle, downshift, turbo spins, power kicks in..) and when I get mine next year I'll let you know how it goes!

In S mode, the lag is practically unnoticeable comparing to D. It's really swift and agile.

 

[friendgr]

Based on your experience, is there a specific way HOW TO floor the pedal in D in order to minimize the lag? Don't lough, it happens to some AT.

P.S. you run at 70km/h probably with 6th gear and you want to hard accelarate. In D position.

 

[R3v]

Based on your experience, is there a specific way HOW TO floor the pedal in D in order to minimize the lag? Don't lough, it happens to some AT.

P.S. you run at 70km/h probably with 6th gear and you want to hard accelarate. In D position.

You just floor it lol. There still is a kickdown which comes a bit later, that's all. Or use paddles to switch to a lower gear, they still work in D as well. D is not limiting your RPMs or something. I daily drive on D now and there is no problem at all in acceleration, just a throttle lag so you have a bit lower fuel consumption in the city. Or just use S as I said, there is no problem with it. You're analysing it too much

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