GT350 steering spec, hydraulic or electrical?

[arsenalrocks]

one of the items no one seems to discuss is the steering. I am just wondering would the new gt350 have a hydraulic or electrical set up?

the F10 M5 is hydraulic where as the 528i is electrical. the M4's rack has been completely re-programmed compares to regular 328i as well.

would the gt350 get a different speced steering rack compares to the 5.0?

thanks

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[Cruzinaround]

I'm guessing they will be using the electronic steering controls and possibly augment them with the newer tech they've locked in on some tested mules across their lineup.

https://media.ford.com/content/ford...d-to-launch-advanced-steering-technology.html

If this is the case then the steering will be more adaptive to driver input.


Should be interesting.

 

[R 350 gt Donson]

I'm guessing they will be using the electronic steering controls and possibly augment them with the newer tech they've locked in on some tested mules across their lineup.

https://media.ford.com/content/ford...d-to-launch-advanced-steering-technology.html

If this is the case then the steering will be more adaptive to driver input.


Should be interesting.

Well done cruzin, cool find, I have never seen this !, and man it looks like the steering is about 1.5 lock turn to lock when the car is in motion.:clap2:

 

[Cruzinaround]

^Innovations is my sector.

And Ford is really bringing on their "A" game.

 

[DrRadar]

Will this be on the GT350? Sweet!
How many times have we heard complaints that the Mustang steering ratio isn't as nimble as a BMW.
Now you will be able to tune it to be how you want it. And it can adapt to speed.
I am a believer that this will be a great car!

 

[Five Oh Brian]

Adaptive Steering is supposed to debut on the all-new 2015 Ford Edge and 2016 Lincoln MKX. However, both models are delayed currently if ordered with the Adaptive Steering as it is not ready yet as hoped for. Let Ford perfect it in other models before getting excited about getting it in a GT350.

 

[Z_Rocks]

I don't remember where I saw it, but I read somewhere that the GT350 and GT350R will be hydraulic. This was a while ago before even the car was unveiled., so not sure it was a fact or speculation.
Personally, I prefer hydraulic than electric system, feels more natural.

I drove a friend's Nissan GT-R a couple of years ago, where the Braking, Gas pedal, steering system, are all under the control of computer. It feels strange but it can save your life in case of emergency.

 

[OppoLock]

I don't remember where I saw it, but I read somewhere that the GT350 and GT350R will be hydraulic. This was a while ago before even the car was unveiled., so not sure it was a fact or speculation.
Personally, I prefer hydraulic than electric system, feels more natural.

I drove a friend's Nissan GT-R a couple of years ago, where the Braking, Gas pedal, steering system, are all under the control of computer. It feels strange but it can save your life in case of emergency.

The GT-R uses a hydraulic pump for steering assist. The only production car that could've been considered "fully electric", a.k.a. steer-by-wire, was the Infiniti Q50. Funny thing is, they're possibly ditching the system which took ages to develop.

Car enthusiasts usually prefer hydraulically assisted racks for their natural weighting characteristics. Electronic power steering assist has been going through a long battle of fine tuning since its implementation years ago. There are multiple different versions of EPS and some of them have the potential to be nearly as good as a hydraulic power unit.

There was a good article on the subject... gotta find it.

 

[Cruzinaround]

Adaptive Steering is supposed to debut on the all-new 2015 Ford Edge and 2016 Lincoln MKX. However, both models are delayed currently if ordered with the Adaptive Steering as it is not ready yet as hoped for. Let Ford perfect it in other models before getting excited about getting it in a GT350.

Fingers crossed as this tech can be a game changer. And it looks to be an upgrade path on any steering column for any model. Provided the programming on the onboard systems from the GT350 onward share the same basic architecture.

If I remember correct from the white papers (TIDs) on this, the actuator is mechanically triggered and depending on speed will adjust the ratios accordingly. As such the tech is transferable across all models and even between manufacturers.

The simplicity in the design is that it does not focus on the given ratios in the rack and steering column, but rather that it focuses on the wheel where the driver provides direct input and receives feedback.

Basically the true genius being in its simplicity.

 

[xlover]

Adaptive steering is availble on BMWs. It gets mixed reviews from the enthusiast community. Some love it some hate it, although alot of the hate goes along with the electric steering in general.

As far as EPAS goes in general, the tech is getting better and better, automakers are attacking from two angles, tuning of the motors and geometry. BMW talked alot about improved geometry on their new M cars to help the electric steering feel more natural. Porsche has by all accounts nailed it on the 911 so it definitely can be done right.

 

[Cruzinaround]

Adaptive steering is availble on BMWs. It gets mixed reviews from the enthusiast community. Some love it some hate it, although alot of the hate goes along with the electric steering in general.

As far as EPAS goes in general, the tech is getting better and better, automakers are attacking from two angles, tuning of the motors and geometry. BMW talked alot about improved geometry on their new M cars to help the electric steering feel more natural. Porsche has by all accounts nailed it on the 911 so it definitely can be done right.

Ford's tech variant for adaptive steering is transferrable between EPAS or Hydraulic. Since it targets just the wheel. It's a form of Tactile input and response rather than entirely reliant on computer algorithms.

 

[arsenalrocks]

I prefer hydraulic tho, I couldn't care less about the extra 1mpg penalty that comes with it.

Adaptive steering is availble on BMWs. It gets mixed reviews from the enthusiast community. Some love it some hate it, although alot of the hate goes along with the electric steering in general.

As far as EPAS goes in general, the tech is getting better and better, automakers are attacking from two angles, tuning of the motors and geometry. BMW talked alot about improved geometry on their new M cars to help the electric steering feel more natural. Porsche has by all accounts nailed it on the 911 so it definitely can be done right.

 

[arsenalrocks]

I hope this is true, but are there any current ford cars on sale that use hydraulic at this moment?

On other note, the current mustang has a 16:1 steering ratio, which in my opinion is way too high.

I don't remember where I saw it, but I read somewhere that the GT350 and GT350R will be hydraulic. This was a while ago before even the car was unveiled., so not sure it was a fact or speculation.
Personally, I prefer hydraulic than electric system, feels more natural.

I drove a friend's Nissan GT-R a couple of years ago, where the Braking, Gas pedal, steering system, are all under the control of computer. It feels strange but it can save your life in case of emergency.

 

[u8mylunch]

I asked Ford Communications regarding the question, Hydraulic or Electrical steering, this is their response.

"...[FONT=&quot]it is electrical . . . tuned specifically for the vehicle. We will be sharing more details about our new GT350 in the coming weeks..."

[/FONT]I did ask about Adaptive Steering in my original request but that was not pointed out in their response.

 

[arsenalrocks]

thanks man, i kinda figured it will be electrical.
let's hope they lower the ratio to make it quicker for us.

the e92 m3 has a ratio of 12.5:1

I asked Ford Communications regarding the question, Hydraulic or Electrical steering, this is their response.

"...[FONT=&quot]it is electrical . . . tuned specifically for the vehicle. We will be sharing more details about our new GT350 in the coming weeks..."

[/FONT]I did ask about Adaptive Steering in the my original request but that was not pointed out in their response.

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