More V6 vs. EcoBoost Banter, Please

[04SloSnake]

I would just drive them and pick the one you like the most then. Your desires won't point directly to either car so it really just comes down to driving feel.

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[TheZman]

One thing about the eBoost is that you cannot get 3.55 without getting the PP, whereas you can on the V6.

The thing about getting the PP is that you get summer only wheels and tires (although they are great looking wheels). There's a nice all season Wheel option on on the V6. Unfortunately, the wheel option on the V6 includes power seat. Power seat interferes with my amplifier placement under the driver. And I prefer manual seat. I'd prefer manual windows, but that's another story.

I don't need the Premium because leather is not important or even particularly desirable to me. I like cloth. Too, I want a base radio. I can put in my own sound system without having to worry about the Shanker. I do like the mode switches.

Overall, the cost is very similar.

It looks like you can only get the V6 with 3.15 gears from the factory. If you want the 3.55 gears you got to go and order them from FORD racing and get them installed. I tried to build a v6 on FORD's website and there was no package with 3.55's in it. Im not saying im right im just saying i couldnt find one. Only upgrade packs for gears i saw were for the GT and EcoBoost.. If your just looking for a good reliable daily driver with all season tires and just love the looks of the mustang you dont need all that performance stuff anyway just go with the V6 for less money.

 

[Bay1Stang]

I have the 3.55 in my V6 straight from the factory.

But honestly I think the main reason you'd get a V6 is for reliability.

And if you can afford a GT go for that and don't look back.

 

[04SloSnake]

I have the 3.55 in my V6 straight from the factory.

But honestly I think the main reason you'd get a V6 is for reliability.

And if you can afford a GT go for that and don't look back.

I haven't seen anything that would lead me to believe the EB isn't reliable, maybe you could enlighten me. Ford is putting an EB motor in just about every model they have so something tells me they will be pretty reliable.

 

[TheZman]

I have the 3.55 in my V6 straight from the factory.

But honestly I think the main reason you'd get a V6 is for reliability.

And if you can afford a GT go for that and don't look back.

Well like i said i just couldnt find that option on FORD's website. V6 is without a doubt a reliable engine. As far as getting a GT and not looking back great option if your a die hard v8 guy.. I decided to go Turbo 4 EcoBoost and not look back. Get a Tune be in the 12's just like the v8 and get amazing fuel economy, cheaper insurance, and saved $7k while doing it.. ALL personal preference..

 

[Bay1Stang]

I haven't seen anything that would lead me to believe the EB isn't reliable, maybe you could enlighten me. Ford is putting an EB motor in just about every model they have so something tells me they will be pretty reliable.

I'm not saying it isn't. I'm just saying the V6 is. We won't know how reliable the 2.3 eco is for a while. The ecoboost engines at first glance don't have the best track record, so that's just why I personally went V6. No tuning or heavy modding here.

Well like i said i just couldnt find that option on FORD's website

Well it's there clear as day if you try to build a V6. It's $400. Actually I think you might need the 051a package as well.

 

[TheZman]

I'm not saying it isn't. I'm just saying the V6 is. We won't know how reliable the 2.3 eco is for a while. The ecoboost engines at first glance don't have the best track record, so that's just why I personally went V6. No tuning or heavy modding here.



Well it's there clear as day if you try to build a V6. It's $400. Actually I think you might need the 051a package as well.

Ya i did build the v6... Only extra option that came up was the 051a $995 option.. So i clicked on the details and in the details of that option it still said 3.15 Gears! So if there's something im missing fine,,.. But im not seeing it.

 

[04SloSnake]

Ya i did build the v6... Only extra option that came up was the 051a $995 option.. So i clicked on the details and in the details of that option it still said 3.15 Gears! So if there's something im missing fine,,.. But im not seeing it.

Hit continue. It is in the exterior options list.

 

[TheZman]

Found it you have to go to exterior and its in those options.. $395

 

[TheZman]

Hit continue. It is in the exterior options list.

Yep already got it thanks!

 

[04SloSnake]

I'm not saying it isn't. I'm just saying the V6 is. We won't know how reliable the 2.3 eco is for a while. The ecoboost engines at first glance don't have the best track record, so that's just why I personally went V6. No tuning or heavy modding here.

I'm trying to figure out where you are going but there is only one problem I am finding and it is regarding the F-150 intercooler working too well. I could find nothing negative about the FiST or the FoST, which is what the 2.3 was based on. If there is something credible, post it up. You say first glance, and I've looked more then that and came up empty.

 

[BmacIL]

The only other thing that is not unique to Ford is that DI engines build up carbon on the back side of the valves because there's no fuel flow to "cleanse" them. You'll need to get walnut blasting or other methods of cleaning the valves to keep it running well. At some point we'll see manufacturers going to both DI and PFI, similar to some new Toyota/Lexus products and the BRZ/FR-S 2.0L engine. This setup gets you the best of everything and you'll get improved power and fuel economy.

A well-understood, naturally aspirated, port fuel-injection engine like the 3.7L will have lower maintenance/upkeep costs than the Ecoboost. That is a fact. That doesn't mean the Ecoboost will be unreliable. Unreliable to me means unplanned failures despite good preventative maintenance.

 

[Bay1Stang]

Well word of mouth advised me against ecoboost when I was shopping as well as articles like this when I google ecoboost:

http://www.consumerclasslawyersblog.com/2014/09/09/ford-ecoboost/
http://***************.com/1083/study-finds-increasing-problems-4-cylinder-engines

When saying reliability I include maintenance as well maybe that's wrong.

 

[04SloSnake]

Well word of mouth advised me against ecoboost when I was shopping as well as articles like this when I google ecoboost:

http://www.consumerclasslawyersblog.com/2014/09/09/ford-ecoboost/
http://***************.com/1083/study-finds-increasing-problems-4-cylinder-engines

When saying reliability I include maintenance as well maybe that's wrong.

Well I asked for credible, but I won't buy a 2011 Ecoboost F-150. You convinced me.

 

[TheZman]

The only other thing that is not unique to Ford is that DI engines build up carbon on the back side of the valves because there's no fuel flow to "cleanse" them. You'll need to get walnut blasting or other methods of cleaning the valves to keep it running well. At some point we'll see manufacturers going to both DI and PFI, similar to some new Toyota/Lexus products and the BRZ/FR-S 2.0L engine. This setup gets you the best of everything and you'll get improved power and fuel economy.

A well-understood, naturally aspirated, port fuel-injection engine like the 3.7L will have lower maintenance/upkeep costs than the Ecoboost. That is a fact. That doesn't mean the Ecoboost will be unreliable. Unreliable to me means unplanned failures despite good preventative maintenance.

This 2.3 EcoBoost is a totally new engine form the previous Ecoboost engines i know from reading articals ive read they really designed it as an upgrade and improving any issues the older ecoboost engines may have had.. If they do start having problems with carbon building up on the valves it would be a good idea to get a meth injection system installed as they do a good job of taking care of that and greatly improving performance and cooling at the same time!

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