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I really like the way the gill lights look. It really defines the car and looks so much better than all the LED drls on the Audi, Lexuses, etc.

Nobody ever thinks I am a rice burner coming at them.
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Sorry Sid, unless you got a Link that the NHTSA changed the Law in the US, DRL`s are still not required. Ford and most Nissan Vehicles as well as (some) Chrysler Cars still don`t have them. Ford requires a Fleet Identification Number to order DRL`s on U.S. Spec Vehicles. Check your Dealers Order Book.
MY bad.. it was made compulsory by EU standards,,,,
 

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If you look into the history of mandated DRL's a little, you find out that it began in Europe's more Northern countries, which are at more northern latitudes than much of Canada. Think shorter (or nonexistent) periods of true daylight during the winter. Basically, the further north you live, the more sense it makes to run some sort of lighting during the day for at least part of the year.

Alaska excepted, the U.S. does not experience conditions approaching polar night (google it).


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If you look into the history of mandated DRL's a little, you find out that it began in Europe's more Northern countries, which are at more northern latitudes than much of Canada. Think shorter (or nonexistent) periods of true daylight during the winter. Basically, the further north you live, the more sense it makes to run some sort of lighting during the day for at least part of the year.

Alaska excepted, the U.S. does not experience conditions approaching polar night (google it).


Norm
Norm;
If you think DRL`s are only of benefit to those living in Northern climes, I lived for several years in Key West in Monroe County FL. Ever make the drive to the end of Route 1 at Mile Marker "0"? That long narrow road has Billboards along the Route saying, "Lights On For Safety". DRL`s are not for (your) benefit but for oncoming Vehicles to notice you fighting the glare of "Sunshine" not darkness.
 

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In 2012 there were roughly 254 million registered vehicles. Also, there are other sites reporting 193 million licensed citizens (able to drive).

Lets say this Norm (and whoever else thinks cars shouldn't come with luxuries like seats), your driving history without DRLs is SUPERB, THE BEST, OUT OF THIS WORLD. Your ability to control your vehicle in a safe manner is the best. You are the Neo of driving.

The reason DRL's are mandatory are for the other 192,999,999 drivers in the US that aren't the Jesus Christ of driving. So manufacturers would rather cater to the 192,999,999 million people that could benefit from making our roads safer to drive (and walk next to...) than the one person who doesn't need it. As its been stated who knows how many times in this 25 page thread. DRL's aren't for you, but for others around you.
 

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In 2012 there were roughly 254 million registered vehicles. Also, there are other sites reporting 193 million licensed citizens (able to drive).

Lets say this Norm (and whoever else thinks cars shouldn't come with luxuries like seats), your driving history without DRLs is SUPERB, THE BEST, OUT OF THIS WORLD. Your ability to control your vehicle in a safe manner is the best. You are the Neo of driving.

The reason DRL's are mandatory are for the other 192,999,999 drivers in the US that aren't the Jesus Christ of driving. So manufacturers would rather cater to the 192,999,999 million people that could benefit from making our roads safer to drive (and walk next to...) than the one person who doesn't need it. As its been stated who knows how many times in this 25 page thread. DRL's aren't for you, but for others around you.
Thanks brother.... This what i have been trying to tell in two such threads...I have no doubt on anybody's driving skills but we have so many people driving and their safety is also a responsibility than our mere likeness or expertise or can be anythin.
 

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As its been stated who knows how many times in this 25 page thread. DRL's aren't for you, but for others around you.
Precisely.

And until you can demonstrate - not with inflexible opinion but with evidence - that I've put other people at risk by driving cars that lack DRLs, you can't even suggest that anybody would have benefitted by my cars having them.


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Precisely.

And until you can demonstrate - not with inflexible opinion but with evidence - that I've put other people at risk by driving cars that lack DRLs, you can't even suggest that anybody would have benefitted by my cars having them.
What does that have to do with anything?

I've never had an airbag go off in any car I've ever been in. Does that mean cars shouldn't have airbags or that I don't need them in my cars?

Your past experience is not indicative of general future performance.
 

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Your past experience is not indicative of general future performance.
That's where you're wrong.

You get better at anything through practice at it, and in the case of driving, practice brings experience with a wider variety of situations and variations on each. Let's at least assume we don't forget everything each time we turn the ignition key off and get out.


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That's where you're wrong.

You get better at anything through practice at it, and in the case of driving, practice brings experience with a wider variety of situations and variations on each. Let's at least assume we don't forget everything each time we turn the ignition key off and get out.
But... it has nothing to do with how good you are at anything, or whether anybody's ever been put at risk by you before. There's always a first time.
 

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That's where you're wrong.

You get better at anything through practice at it, and in the case of driving, practice brings experience with a wider variety of situations and variations on each. Let's at least assume we don't forget everything each time we turn the ignition key off and get out.


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Let me guess, are you also a card carrying member of the World is Flat Society and the fact that the Polar Icecaps are disappearing along with the Polar Bears proves that Global Warming is a hoax too regardless if it Man Made or simply cyclical. The act of simply sticking ones head into the Sand does not mean that there is not (some) evidence that DRL`s do offer at least a small measure of safety in regards to making (your) Vehicle more visible to oncoming traffic. It`s fun being a "contrarian" simply for contrarian sake alone.:frusty:
 

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It's not how good a driver you are...but how bad the other guy is. Speaking from 50 years of experience: 3 rear end collisions from drivers who were driving too fast, texting, watching the blond in the short shorts, Two drivers who didn't know what that red hexagonal sign on the right side of the road meant. And the driver who thought that my cycle head light meant that he could straddle the center line.
 

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That's where you're wrong.

You get better at anything through practice at it, and in the case of driving, practice brings experience with a wider variety of situations and variations on each. Let's at least assume we don't forget everything each time we turn the ignition key off and get out.


Norm

For the most part, you have good arguments. I don't always agree with your opinion, but everyone is entitled to their own point of view. But to say that people get better at anything simply by practicing and that experienced drivers are thus better than younger drivers is a generalization that is far-fetched. First of all, practice in and of itself doesn't make people better at things. The practice must be done correctly, or you simply become better at doing things wrong. Secondly, as time progresses our minds, eye sight, muscles, and reactions tend to deteriorate. Jack Nicklaus has had much more practice and experience hitting golf balls and navigating golf courses than any other player currently playing on the PGA Tour, yet he would not fare well against them. Lastly, regardless of experience, an unexpected situation can lie around any corner, at any time.
 
 








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