Formula 1 talk.

[HoosierDaddy]

Case of mistaken identity. They thought Alonso was driving it.

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[XeninWorX]

Went to the pharmacy yesterday, look who I found.

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[Vlad Soare]

Yeah, around here we get Sainz, who's telling us how marvellous his shampoo is. Frankly, I can't even remember which shampoo that is. Could it be L'Oréal? No idea. All I know is, it's not Head & Shoulders, because that was already taken by Ronaldo.
I guess sports aren't so profitable nowadays, if poor sportsmen need to prostitute themselves in their spare time to make a living...

 

[HoosierDaddy]

Yeah, around here we get Sainz, who's telling us how marvellous his shampoo is. Frankly, I can't even remember which shampoo that is. Could it be L'Oréal? No idea. All I know is, it's not Head & Shoulders, because that was already taken by Ronaldo.
I guess sports aren't so profitable nowadays, if poor sportsmen need to prostitute themselves in their spare time to make a living...

Well the F1 money is all for the top top.

I understand the excitement of driving an F1 car but there are pay drivers meaning what they get aside from performance bonuses is a small piece of what their sponsors pay the team. And that is reportedly as low as $100k. Many plumbers, electricians, etc.. make more. Point is some F1 drivers are not in it for the money.

And I saw an article last year or year before reporting net worth of team principles. A few are mega. Article didn't mention pay, just worth. I have had longer to accumulate, but I'm worth more than at least 4 team principles if article was accurate. Unless their lifestyle just takes too big a bite, the pay for those can't be that great.

 

[Vlad Soare]

Well the F1 money is all for the top top.

I understand the excitement of driving an F1 car but there are pay drivers meaning what they get aside from performance bonuses is a small piece of what their sponsors pay the team. And that is reportedly as low as $100k. Many plumbers, electricians, etc.. make more. Point is some F1 drivers are not in it for the money.

And I saw an article last year or year before reporting net worth of team principles. A few are mega. Article didn't mention pay, just worth. I have had longer to accumulate, but I'm worth more than at least 4 team principles if article was accurate. Unless their lifestyle just takes too big a bite, the pay for those can't be that great.

I don't know. I'm not so sure about that. Here's what I find at a quick search:
https://motorsporttickets.com/blog/f1-driver-salaries-how-much-formula-1-drivers-earn/
And those amounts do not include bonuses.
Carlos Sainz, 7.7 million pounds. An awful lot of people can't even count that high over their entire lifetime, let alone in one season.
I don't mind it. He can earn as much he can for all I care. It means nothing to me. But to then put his face on a big banner and tell me, "please buy this shampoo because I get paid if you do" is pathetic to say the least.
At a quick search, Ronaldo's net worth is estimated at 1.2 billion dollars. And then he goes on and uses his face to sell shampoo and suitcases, just to make a bit more. How greedy can one get?

 

[HoosierDaddy]

I don't know. I'm not so sure about that. Here's what I find at a quick search:
https://motorsporttickets.com/blog/f1-driver-salaries-how-much-formula-1-drivers-earn/
And those amounts do not include bonuses.
Carlos Sainz, 7.7 million pounds. An awful lot of people can't even count that high over their entire lifetime, let alone in one season.
I don't mind it. He can earn as much he can for all I care. It means nothing to me. But to then put his face on a big banner and tell me, "please buy this shampoo because I get paid if you do" is pathetic to say the least.
At a quick search, Ronaldo's net worth is estimated at 1.2 billion dollars. And then he goes on and uses his face to sell shampoo and suitcases, just to make a bit more. How greedy can one get?

I just said the low end of drivers and team principles aren't very well compensated.

 

[Vlad Soare]

Yeah, that may be, but apparently it's the high end drivers (or football players for that matter) that prostitute themselves after hours. Hence my displeasure.
I'm fine with it when you can barely make ends meet, but not when you earn in one year more than most people would earn in two lifetimes. Ironically, I don't see those low end drivers on big billboards at the side of the road or in shopping malls. It's always the high end ones.

 

[sk47]

Ironically, I don't see those low end drivers on big billboards at the side of the road or in shopping malls. It's always the high end ones.

Hello; This I think I understand. while the top winning drivers get paid the most they also get the most press. That gives them name recognition, so companies pay more for them to hype their products.
I do not know what, if anything, makes driving a F1 car worth listening to about perfume. there was one athlete + company deal which worked out great for both. Michael Jordan & NIKE. That was interesting. I was not a pro basketball fan, but I knew of AIR JORDANS. Crazy prices.

 

[Bikeman315]

Yeah, that may be, but apparently it's the high end drivers (or football players for that matter) that prostitute themselves after hours. Hence my displeasure.
I'm fine with it when you can barely make ends meet, but not when you earn in one year more than most people would earn in two lifetimes. Ironically, I don't see those low end drivers on big billboards at the side of the road or in shopping malls. It's always the high end ones.

It’s the high end ones that bring the buyers. Celebrity spokespeople have been around forever. Many American celebrities have even done advertising overseas years before even doing one in the US. And do you really think it’s just greed? It’s not. In many cases the support is due to sponsorship deals or just wanting to support a brand or product the celebrity actually uses. Hell, for years I only drank Pepsi because of Jeff Gordon. Coke was the enemy.

 

[MAGS1]

Hell, for years I only drank Pepsi because of Jeff Gordon.

Good man, Ira. I’m a big Jeff Gordon fan, probably my favorite NASCAR driver ever.

 

[Vlad Soare]

This I think I understand. while the top winning drivers get paid the most they also get the most press. That gives them name recognition, so companies pay more for them to hype their products.

It’s the high end ones that bring the buyers.

Sure, I get why companies want to hire the high end ones. What I don't get is why those high end ones agree to it, when they are already drowning in money that they wouldn't be able to spend in three lives, let alone in one.
Now, if they did something honorable for extra money, I wouldn't have anything against it. Hiring a high-profile sportsman to give lectures to kids, or to promote the sport, or even to paint your porch, you name it, would be perfectly fine. But this kind of prostitution, because I can't call it otherwise, is inexcusable.

And do you really think it’s just greed? It’s not. In many cases the support is due to sponsorship deals

Sponsorship deals are about money. Yes, I think that's just greed.

 

[Bikeman315]

Sure, I get why companies want to hire the high end ones. What I don't get is why those high end ones agree to it, when they are already drowning in money that they wouldn't be able to spend in three lives, let alone in one.
Now, if they did something honorable for extra money, I wouldn't have anything against it. Hiring a high-profile sportsman to give lectures to kids, or to promote the sport, or even to paint your porch, you name it, would be perfectly fine. But this kind of prostitution, because I can't call it otherwise, is inexcusable.


Sponsorship deals are about money. Yes, I think that's just greed.

Oh please stop. If there was no sponsorships there would be F1. Or any sport for that matter. If you really have such an issue with it just do not buy the products they are advertising. And you better check every single product in your home and I absolutely guarantee someone in there is sponsored by an inexcusable prostitute. 🫪

 

[Bikeman315]

Good man, Ira. I’m a big Jeff Gordon fan, probably my favorite NASCAR driver ever.

I started watching him when he was in the Busch series. A native from Indiana, living in California racing with the good old boys from the South. What could possibly go wrong? I guess, absolutely nothing.

 

[HoosierDaddy]

Yeah, that may be, but apparently it's the high end drivers (or football players for that matter) that prostitute themselves after hours. Hence my displeasure.
I'm fine with it when you can barely make ends meet, but not when you earn in one year more than most people would earn in two lifetimes. Ironically, I don't see those low end drivers on big billboards at the side of the road or in shopping malls. It's always the high end ones.

Money and more stuff can be highly addictive. Can easily be worse for someone than heroin, crack, fentanyl or whatever is going around now. I realized early in life it doesn't take much to be happy as a clam. Decades ago I recall hearing some billionaire (in today dollars) going on and on how life was pointless because someone outbid him for a Greek island he just had to have. It was clearly not just showing off he could afford one.

 

[HoosierDaddy]

Sure, I get why companies want to hire the high end ones. What I don't get is why those high end ones agree to it, when they are already drowning in money that they wouldn't be able to spend in three lives, let alone in one.

It can become addictive. I sometimes wonder how that aspect came to be. But I'm very much in favor of greed as long as I don't get catch it. I truly believe many things that make life better as time marches on would NEVER come to be if creating them didn't satisfy some person or group "need" just to have more money or use as a measure of their worth. Of course, there need to be laws and norms to prevent abuse as with most addictions.

Typing that just reminded me of a couple arguing about something at a party. The man declared money is directly correlated with how smart you are (I'm sure it would have been correlated to whatever trait being debated). He literally took her checkbook from her purse, read the balance to those nearby and declared himself the winner of the argument.

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