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Hello again,

Just wanted to share some pictures of our R&D Processes. As you can see below we did some extensive testing with our exhaust and our intakes.

First up is our exhaust testing. We tested this in 3 different formations and ended up with 2 finals. On top of our own product development we also tested a Magnaflow street unit so we can see what we were getting for the money, and to see the quality and fitment up front.

Here is a breakdown of our configurations, all 3 were 3" to 2x 2.5".

1. Mid Muffler, 2 x Full Mufflers
2. No Mid Muffler, 2 x Full Mufflers
3. No Mid Muffler, 2 x Full Mufflers, Drone tube between DP and CB
4. 2 x Mid Resonators, 2 x Full Mufflers

Version 1 (Not selling) - This sounded great but didn't produce as much power as we would have liked and the center mid muffler couldn't tuck to the body as much as we would of like and hung low. We kept our customers in mind and knew that most of them would be lowering there car, and wouldn't have what we would consider ideal ground clearance.

Version 2 - We decided this was a keeper and is an option for our catback offerings. This exhaust has a great note, provided the power we were expecting, and has excellent ground clearance. This exhaust is going to be for the customer looking for a not to loud exhaust, with nice grumbles and backpressure pops that people on the forums here seem to like!

Version 3 (Not Selling) - Same as Version 2 but we added a drone tube to the connection between the downpipe and the catback. This was purely for R&D to see if we could quiet the exhaust down and get rid of the grumbles and pops. It succeeded in removing the grumbles and pops, but did not quiet the exhaust down which is what our main focus was.

Version 4 - We took out the drone tube, and added two high quality resonators to the mid-pipe. We were able to quiet the exhaust down to our liking, and remove the grumbles and pops. This is a very nice sounding exhaust, great in cabin noise, no drone, great ground clearance, and not loud. This is going to be the go to exhaust for those of you that want the performance gains of a catback, great looks, and are looking for a sound that looks like it should be coming from a Mustang :D!


First picture you are going to see all the exhaust laid out, second picture is going to be our DP to CB connection with drone tube. I also added our Magnaflow video as well.




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Now we move onto our intake testing. We wanted to be able to provide a high quality intake, at a low cost, while still being able to perform to our standards.

1. 3.0" Aluminum intake tube, with steel airbox, behind headlight draw
2. 3.5" Aluminum intake tube, fender draw
3. 3.0" Stainless tube, fender draw

Here are the results from our testing. All testing was done with our downpipe and Version 4 exhaust, with the hood down.



The Red, Yellow, Green is comparing our intakes against each other stock information is provided so you can see what we started from.

Version 1 (Not Selling) - intake was the hottest intake air temperature (IAT) at idle and got the hottest during pulls. This is because the airbox would retain the heat around the filter. Many are led to believe that airboxes protect the heat from getting to the filter but that isn't always the case! This intake would of performed better with a steel tube in my opinion but not by much. This intake provided the 2nd most HP out of our 3 versions, but the lowest torque.

Version 2 (Not Selling) - intake was a little bit better on the idle and mid pull on IAT's but still wasn't the best. The intake started around the same IAT's at idle as our stainless steel final version intake, but the aluminum didn't allow the intake to cool down fast enough between pulls. I netted us the lowest horsepower, and good torque but not enough ;).

Version 3 - intake is our final version intake that we already have started shipping, and we they are flying off the shelf like hotcakes with our current promotional pricing. This intake provided the best IAT's at idle and during pulls. As you can see the intake cooled down efficient and almost came back to the same starting temperature pull after pull. It provided us the most power gains over the stock intake, and averaged more hp over our other intake versions.


In conclusion, 3.0" is the optimal diameter for the ecoboost intakes. 3.5" provided no gains over the 3.0". Aluminum isn't the best material choice for the intake either. It doesn't provide enough cooling efficiency as the stainless steel. It heats up faster than stainless, and it retains heat for longer. Now, I'm not saying aluminum shouldn't be used for different designs or different products. What I am saying is that stainless provided the most benefit in this testing. Durability, efficiency, better aesthetically (opinion), and allows us provide you with an affordable option. It just so happens the most affordable option is also the best performing.

Here is some pictures of our different versions, the final version intake pictured below does have multiple weld joints, but as you can see in the original post our final version intake is 1 piece with no weld joints at all.





I will been keeping this post up to date as we have more progress. Today I will be posting our product showcase video, we are just finishing up editing on that as well!

Thank you,
Adam Brunson
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Good write up, thanks Adam.
 

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So weird question would header wrap reduce heat soak within the intake tube?
 

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Great post, Adam! I really like it when companies give us a "look behind the scenes" and provide us with information/data on why they make the decisions and choices that they do! Sometimes I think that some companies cobble their stuff together just to throw something out on the market.

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Any plans on publishing data on the different exhaust options in the same or similar format as you did the intake data? At least the MAP exhaust.
 

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Good write up, thanks Adam.
Thank you!

Great post, Adam! I really like it when companies give us a "look behind the scenes" and provide us with information/data on why they make the decisions and choices that they do! Sometimes I think that some companies cobble their stuff together just to throw something out on the market.

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I agree, we try to be as thorough as we can during this busy time. I'm taking time out of my schedule to make sure we give you guys the best info on our products.

Any plans on publishing data on the different exhaust options in the same or similar format as you did the intake data? At least the MAP exhaust.
Yes, we are working on that right now actually. We are currently putting stock intake and downpipe on our mustang, flashing the stock tune, then going to put our resonated and non-resonated exhaust on our EBM. From there we will do start up, drive by, and rev video. Then do some dyno pulls to show the actual gains from just the exhaust. We will compare ours directly to the magnaflow we have here right now. There isn't going to be much data to collect beyond horsepower and torque gains, the rest of the info about the exhaust are posted on in the first post.

Thank you guys for your questions and compliments, make sure you stay tuned!
 

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Please trust me guys talking to Adam 1 on 1 the wait will definitely be worth it! What I'm gathering from Adam from our talks is we should take stay tuned as stay exited because this is just a start!
 

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Ahhh, I just want to see guys start showing us the turbo and fuel system upgrades... :p

But good to see the in depth info anyway.
 

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As promised, MAP Intake product video:

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As you can see, our intake by itself with factory tune produce gains of 15-20whp over factory intake between 2500rpm and 5000rpm. Torque in the same RPM range saw gains of up to 30ft/lbs over factory. Again, this is a with a COMPLETELY stock EBM with just our intake, no tune or other modifications.

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It looks really good, guys. Price is super competitive too. If it wasn't for the snow, I'd already have my mustang :( .. and your products.
 
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It looks really good, guys. Price is super competitive too. If it wasn't for the snow, I'd already have my mustang :( .. and your products.
Thank you! When you are ready, you know who to contact!

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I want in on this, I will be placing my order for the intake, please someone message me!
 
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