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no just an option. I wish my 350 had it honestly.
I can see a reason to want it. I think there are better options out there as far as DCTs go. Tremec should make some alterations to it and make it stronger like the manual option for the C8.
 

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Where do you draw the line at big power? DCT can handle up to 1200 hp without any issues. 1000 hp all day long.
How often will it over heat and go into limp mode at 1000?
It's a well documented problem.
 

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How often will it over heat and go into limp mode at 1000?
It's a well documented problem.
Mine is at 1000 and never over heated or gone into limp mode. The issue i had before i switched to a whipple was heat soak from the factory supercharger and it would pull power. If the DHSC has dealt with the cooling then it is an improvement over the 500. The main issue with the DCT is it lays an egg from a dig. 60 foot times at a drag strip are an issue. Besides that I have not heard of the overheat. I know several issues with launching have been noted. You may be right but not something i have personally encountered. The DCT is a track transmission and not ideal for the drag strip. Guess i am saying it depends on what you are going for using the car. Roll racing and track the DCT is not a bad option with 1000 hp. Drag strip it definitely lacks.
 

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Mine is at 1000 and never over heated or gone into limp mode. The issue i had before i switched to a whipple was heat soak from the factory supercharger and it would pull power. If the DHSC has dealt with the cooling then it is an improvement over the 500. The main issue with the DCT is it lays an egg from a dig. 60 foot times at a drag strip are an issue. Besides that I have not heard of the overheat. I know several issues with launching have been noted. You may be right but not something i have personally encountered. The DCT is a track transmission and not ideal for the drag strip. Guess i am saying it depends on what you are going for using the car. Roll racing and track the DCT is not a bad option with 1000 hp. Drag strip it definitely lacks.
Drag strip and Track I have seen them go into limp. You're saying a 10K supercharger solved your problem? Doesn't seem like a Reasonable deal to fix the issue but I don't know for sure.
All I'm saying is that the package leaves a lot to be desired. Is it tunable yet?
 

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Drag strip and Track I have seen them go into limp. You're saying a 10K supercharger solved your problem? Doesn't seem like a Reasonable deal to fix the issue but I don't know for sure.
All I'm saying is that the package leaves a lot to be desired. Is it tunable yet?
I would say it has to be tunable. The S650 is and the same engine on the 500 is. So my guess is that it will be tunable.If not, will not be long.

I changed my supercharger for the extra power. Just a secondary was the heat soak issue. Hard track day in summer it still gets hot and pulls power but not as quick. Next purchase will be a new heat exchanger and secondary coolant that whipple sells. Definitely keeping my 500 over buying a new DHSC. It would have been tempting if they did a little more.
 

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It should be interesting to see what the MSRP will be. I assume Ford will do their usual thing and make it limited quantity so that dealers feel free to upcharge.

When I initially saw the CCB option along with the unique carbon fiber wheels, I was thinking this car will be MUCH higher priced than the GT500. I wouldn't be surprised if it's $160K or even more if all the option boxes are checked.

I realize lots of people were criticizing the Shelby named cars in the past and saying that licensing was causing the GT350 and GT500 prices to be too high. Well, if that is true, maybe the base DH SC will be less expensive than the GT500.

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Ok. I may get roasted for this but here goes:
Mustang and Corvette have never been competitors and if they were, nobody told GM that; only Ford owners think that. GM has always benchmarked Porsche. The Ford GT was built to race and per homologation rules, a company has to have a car in production to race it. Ford was actually granted an exemption to build the street car and race car simultaneously. Additionally, the Ford GT street car was built to compete with supercars, not the Corvette. The GTD was built to compete with Porsche, not the Corvette. Jim Farley is enamored with Porsche. The GT3RS and GT2RS were his benchmarks, not the Corvette. The Ring was his challenge, not the quarter mile with the GTD. Corvette never touted their Ring times, but Porsche does. Porsche cares less about quarter mile times. The only American car that was chasing a sub 7 second Ring time was a Dodge Viper and that was an independent group. GM did not build the eRay, Z06, ZR1, or ZR1X to compete with any Ford products. GM is looking at Porsche, McLaren, Ferrari, and Lambo now. IMHO, I think Farley knows that. They are pissing in different pools now with Corvette going mid engine. If anyone thinks that Ford will build a mid engine car that current or former Mustang owner can afford, that would be delusional.
 

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If anyone thinks that Ford will build a mid engine car that current or former Mustang owner can afford, that would be delusional.
You were making good points until that.
 

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You were making good points until that.
I just don't think that a mid engine Ford would be affordable for most of the us that own a Mustang today aside from a GTD or GT. Unless someone knows something different. The 2005/2006 Ford GT was the last mid engine V8 Ford made and that was $140k with a $100k ADM on most.

Adjusted for inflation, $140,000 in 2005 is worth approximately $231,680 today.


This reflects a cumulative inflation rate of about 65.5% over the last 21 years.

Breakdown

  • 2005 Value: $140,000
  • Total Inflation: ~65.5%
  • 2026 Value: ~$231,680


https://www.imsa.com/news/2020/06/1...stantly-collectible-and-it-isnt-slowing-down/
 
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nobody cares about ring times except nerds
Totally subjective and not to say that I am one of those people, but there are also folks that care less about actual drag racing because they are not going to a drag strip to do it.
 
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Totally subjective and not to say that I am one of those people but there are also folks that care less about drag racing. Track closings have and will continue to happen. And let's be real, most people on these forums who talk about drag or roll racing are not going to a track to do it.
Plenty of them do.

Compared to how many are going to be on the Nurburgring?
 

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Yup, the DH and Mach1 both fell short of the GT350, and in a recent race, of all 3 in manual trim the GT350 was a clear winner. I kind of understood them not wanting the "Mustang" Mach1(which lets be real was mostly the Bullitt and PPL2 packages combined and a few Shelby bits added in) to not pass the Full Ford Performance GT350 yet, but that excuse does NOT exist for the Dark Horse. They simply dropped the ball on that. Maybe if they didn't give it that stupid semi-glass eye liner and waste money on un-needed upgraded internals they could have given it the 20-30HP more it should have had to put it over the GT350 and properly establish a name for itself. Instead, it just became a good reason to get a GT350 or Mach1.
The GT350 idolization is hilarious. It’s not that special, and the DH/M1 have already shown to outperform it. It’s still a Mustang with an unreliable motor. The GT500 is on a different level.
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