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Griot’s Tar & Sap Remover is good. I’ve heard their polishers are quite good for the price point too. I haven’t really used any of their other products
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Griot’s Tar & Sap Remover is good. I’ve heard their polishers are quite good for the price point too. I haven’t really used any of their other products
I've heard their Boss foam canon is nice as well. And the mat cleaner is supposed to be great. Fab Automotive Detailing uses a lot of their products.
 

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but say hello to baby Olly..
Olly's a cutie for sure D but then, what puppy that age isn't, right? And they all have that "puppy smell." <grin> And if there is life after "somewhere," I have absolutely NO doubt that Faych would agree with your decision.

The only thing I would have done differently had I been in your shoes would have been to look for a Cocker at a local rescue kennel. After two breeder pups, the wife and I met some fine folks at a rescue shelter and have since rescued eleven Dobies.

No, you don't get the fun of having a young pup when you go the rescue route but, you also don't usually have the mess. <smile> We just found that saving a dog from certain death was more rewarding and I can tell you with absolute certainty that every rescue we've had has unquentionably made their thanks known to us almost immediately.

I'm not raining on your parade D, dog lovers stick together and have a special bond so you give that little fella as much love as you can and as you well know, he will return that love ten fold. And please keep us up to date with photos as they grow ever so quickly.
 

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Olly's a cutie for sure D but then, what puppy that age isn't, right? And they all have that "puppy smell." <grin> And if there is life after "somewhere," I have absolutely NO doubt that Faych would agree with your decision.

The only thing I would have done differently had I been in your shoes would have been to look for a Cocker at a local rescue kennel. After two breeder pups, the wife and I met some fine folks at a rescue shelter and have since rescued eleven Dobies.

No, you don't get the fun of having a young pup when you go the rescue route but, you also don't usually have the mess. <smile> We just found that saving a dog from certain death was more rewarding and I can tell you with absolute certainty that every rescue we've had has unquentionably made their thanks known to us almost immediately.

I'm not raining on your parade D, dog lovers stick together and have a special bond so you give that little fella as much love as you can and as you well know, he will return that love ten fold. And please keep us up to date with photos as they grow ever so quickly.
It's all good, I understand and I was kinda expecting someone to bring it up.

I did also consider doing that, and there is a sense guilt from not potentially saving a rescue. As a dog tragic, there is a part of me protecting myself from what I know would happen walking into a rescue place, then wanting to take them all home, and then beating myself up with guilt for not being able to save them all. I'm doing this right now as the last of Olly's litter is still waiting for his forever home, I'll probably cave and take him too. I get all this from my mother.

On the flip side, I have seen where rescues become quite destructive, especially when left alone. One of my clients took on a rescue and ended up having to put him down as he was so riddled with anxiety, he has hurting himself. Obviously, that is an isolated case, but something that has stuck with me as this particular dog was a handsome boy and loving creature.

I know what is coming with puppy life, and a clean freak, I have to let that go. I know its selfish, but there is a connection I want to make from the beginning, become his person. I did that with Faych and while he had his quirks, some of which became demanding, it's all part of the deal. I'm never going to have children, this is my substitute.
 
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TESTING GRIOT'S GARAGE -

Griot's Garage has long been a respected detailing brand in the USA. A family-owned business, they pride themselves on providing exceptional customer service and US-made detailing chemicals. Ever since joining the Autogeek forum a few years ago, I've heard nothing but positive comment regarding this brand. On countless occasions, I had people telling me I should try Griot's Garage, but my response was always the same, not sold here. Sort of............

Going back a few years, Auto Mega Store (an online auto retailer) began stocking three or four products, none of them what I'd consider a true representation of the Griot's brand. Then Obsessed Garage, who offers international shipping, took on a small selection of products. Shipping prices were astronomical and only worthwhile if buying other items too. This was actually my introduction to the brand, of which I really liked the Interior Cleaner, the gallon spouts and Fast Correcting Creme.

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There was also a few ways of getting the brand through back door avenues, but it was just not worth the hassle. Then Amazon began offering Griot's, but again, a little costly. Enter Autobarn......................

Griots Garage | Shop our Full Range by Brand at Autobarn | Autobarn Category | Autobarn

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Pricing is still little rich on certain products, but pretty much in line with other American specialty brands sold in this country. No doubt the prices are inflated to provide room for the constant revolving door of catalog specials. It is what it is.

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Today I put each of the above products to work on the Ranger, with the exception of the interior cleaner and scent, of which I've already have tested.

In order of use...................

Wheel-Tire-Matt Cleaner -

On the Ranger, I only used this to clean the tyres, which proved to be exceptionally good! With tyre cleaners, I really like it when they lather up nicely as it gives you a visual indicator of what you are doing, which is why I love Brake Buster. So, it lathers exceptionally well, and appeared to do the job VERY well, check out later in the post for that.

(Note I have an empty bottle here, which I discovered was leaking from a crack in the plastic. I put the product into another bottle but kept original bottle for photography.)

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Like Brake Buster, I reckon this stuff would foam like a MF! It has a semi gel-like formula to keep it from running off vertical surfaces, and being multi-purpose product, this would likely mean an alkaline leaning formula. And at $29.95, it's decent value.

DFB Verdict - A winner! Easily the pick of tyre cleaners available in a store like this, and one of the best I've tried full stop.

Brilliant Finish Car Wash soap -

This is a soap that apparently "preserves your wax", which indicate a pH balanced formula. They also suggest the "special brighteners yield a lasting, high-gloss and streak-free appearance", which would be a cause for concern with ceramic coated vehicles.

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As you can see, this soap foams well at an 8:1 dilution, not the best I've seen, but it can certainly put on a show. Slickness is good, again not the best, but plenty slick. I also like the free rinsing properties, and those gloss enhancers didn't mess with the paint or wheel coatings on this vehicle. The scent is very subdued, almost not there. Price wise, at full RRP its on par with something like Meg's Gold Class, but I'd favor the Griot's.

DFB Verdict - A very nice soap, just lacks a little theater.

Ceramic Speed Shine -

Ceramic Speed shine is a step above the regular Speed Shine in that it contains siloxane and Si02 to provide superior gloss, slickness and water repellency. They suggest it can be used as a clay lubricant, but I probably wouldn't do that.

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I used this product as a drying aid. On initial acquaintance, this stuff reminds me of Gyeon Ceramic Detailer in both scent and application feel. In that I mean some slight initial grabbiness, something I really didn't like with the Gyeon product. But as it flashes, the surface transforms into a glossy, slick look and feel. This product has that mild vinegar type aroma common to a lot of these ceramic detailers, although they have laced it with a mild scent. Price wise, this is one of the more expensive items at full RRP. Personally, I'd favour Meguiar's Hybrid Ceramic Detailer instead.

DFB Verdict - Not bad, but not a must-have.

Speed Shine -

This is the original Speed Shine, basically a traditional quick detailer. These products are often overlooked these days, but they still have a place in my opinion. With a high level of lubrication, Speed Shine also has some mild cleaning properties, making it ideal for spot cleaning of bird bombs or bugs. Like any detail spray, Speed Shine is safe for all surfaces and can also be used as a drying aid or interior detailer.

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I used Speed Shine as a drying aid for the door jambs and tray sides. I really love the sweet scent, which is much less "nosey" than the ceramic version. It feels slick under the towel, which again makes it nicer to work with than the ceramic type. It flashes away nicely and leaves a slick, glossy surface. Pricing on Speed Shine seems about right to me, and overall, I think I like this one better than the ceramic version.

DFB Verdict - I've always like quick detailers, and Speed Shine is no different. Will it knock your socks off? No, but it does absolutely nothing wrong, which makes it a winner for me.

Ceramic Glass Cleaner -

I've been buying a lot of this type of glass cleaner lately, so I thought I'd give this a try as well. These products are basically a mild spray sealant with a high evaporation rate to help limit streaks. Ceramic Glass Cleaner is intended as a maintenance product to Griot's glass coating (not sold here), but it can be used as a standalone to create exceptional hydrophobic properties.............fancy RainX in other words. Bizarrely, they suggest you team it with a clay bar for decontaminating the glass.

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Having tried a few of these glass cleaners now, I've noticed some work brilliant, some are horrible. The best I've found is the Opti-Coat Clean & Protect, the worst being Carpro ClarifyPhobic. I'd say the Griot's sits in the middle, it required just a little more attention than the Opti-Coat, but nowhere near as temperamental as the Carpro. The scent is a non-event, but 650ml bottle is very well priced.

DFB Verdict - Good, not great. I much prefer the Stoner and Optimum versions.

Interior Detailer -

These interior products have become extremely popular of the last 5-years as they provide just the right amount of cleaning and UV protection, but without making your interior look like an oil slick. The Griot's version is suitable for all interior surfaces including leather, plastic, vinyl, glass and infotainment screens.

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With a mild citrus scent, the Interior Detail performs on par with the likes of competitor products from Carpro, Gyeon, Meguires and Koch Chemie. In that I mean how it wipes on and flashes away to a clean OEM finish. If you prefer a more enhanced look, I'd suggest looking at P&S Swift or Ethos Interior Detailer instead. Important to note this is a very different product to their Interior Cleaner, which offers significantly more cleaning power, but for maintaining an already clean car, this stuff will do it all day long.

DFB Verdict - A worthy contender, although the bar set by ADS Pilot probably skews my rating here.

Ceramic Tire Dressing -

"Ceramic" tire dressings have become more and more prevalent over the last couple of years as they promise a darker look and superior longevity. Griot's make a lot of the ultra-durable nature of this product, likewise the lack of sling and a satin appearance. And praise the lord, Griot's resisted the urge to call this product tire SHINE.

At this point, notice how clean the tyre is after its treatment earlier. Very impressive cleaning power.

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I've met very few tyre dressings I didn't like, and this Griot's product is no different. It spreads easily, with a large brush in my case, smells lovely and leaves that ultra-dark look. On these tyres, there is some mild initial shine, but it levels off with a follow up wipe.

DFB Verdict - A winner.

Final Thoughts -

The Griot's lineup in the USA is absolutely massive! As well as detailing chemicals, towels, tools, and accessories, they also offer garage related tools and accessories. At the moment the lineup available in stores is relatively small. That would be a result of Autobarn selecting a very weekend warrior friendly product mix, which explains the focus on wax-based products, but overall, the basics are covered.

I doubt the tools and accessories will land here either, most of which are made in China. In the end, Autobarn can (and do) supply similar items for less money by going straight to the manufacturer. Griot's are the middleman and passes on two layers of profit margin, then more fat is added once they land in Australian retailers. That's why a basic $10 brush ends up being $40 in Australia, or a foam cannon going from $99 to $200.

I need more time with these products, but so far they have proven to be solid performers. If you buy your detailing supplies at the big box stores and are getting bored with Bowden's or the other usual suspects, I'd suggest giving the Griot's brand a look. In particular, the tyre cleaner and dressing are excellent, but I'd also check out the Interior Cleaner and Speed Shine too.

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You made the right choice, my friend. I made the mistake of thinking time needed to pass before getting another pup in my life and I was miserable... your friend Faytch would not approve of that...

On a lighter note, I just picked this up as the price was right... any experience or thoughts on it? I'm a total beginner so any input is appreciated :) Pads and product next!


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Those Milwaukee M18 polishers are very good, a little heavy but plenty of torque. With that in mind, perhaps get a test panel or start off with something mild/forgiving. I'd also draw a long on the back of the backing plate so that you see when the pad stalls.

When it comes to pads, start with a dimpled-style foam pad selection, these can be easier to learn on and produce less heat. You'll want 3 - 4 of each grade in fine polishing, polishing and intermediate types, you can add cutting pads in foam, wool or microfiber at a later date. Check out Lake Country SDO CCS in white, orange and yellow. Keep in mind each pad company uses different colours to denote pad grade.

Search results: 14 results for “CCS” – Car Supplies Warehouse

Compound wise, if you can, check out Scholl S20 Black, a one-step cutting/polishing compound. You could also do Sonax Perfect Finish. The other option, get something like Carpro Essence, which is a polish and protectant "all-in-one". This won't correct heavy defects, but it will teach you pad control while using a very forgiving compound. In any case, only buy the small bottles as they can degrade over time.

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First wash post detail, which is always super satisfying in how easily everything comes together.

Don't let the Brake Buster bottle fool you, that's Griot's Wheel-Tire-Mat Cleaner. This product has a mild scent to mask that acrid chemical aroma of most rubber cleaners such as Brake Buster, Wise Guy and ReTyre. As per yesterday, it seemed to work extremely well, which is surprising because these tyres are resistant to everything but Tarminator.

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Mixing things up today, I decided to roll out the K1152 (K1122) to give it a run. The K1152 and KHD-10 have the same advertised flow rates, 10-litres per minute (2.64 GPM), but the K1152 certainly feels leaner. I ran this with the same gun and 4.5 orifice nozzles I use with the wall mount system, so perhaps it's the result of the 10-amp (1152) vs 15-amp (KHD-10) situation? Having said that, the K1152 is soooo much quieter than the KHD-10, to the point where the water or foam flow is noisier than the machine itself. And the 1/4-inch hose is much easier to manage than the 3/8-inch Cobra Jet. But then the wall mount comes back into its own when setting up and packing away.
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Who needs a ceramic coating when you get this from a humble synthetic sealant?

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Cleaned, the old girl has swapped place with the Mustang for a little rest.
 

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A little re-stock from Detailing Shed before the Christmas closures. The notable inclusion here being that spray bottle, the new Pressol Pro-Series.

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I've been using v1 Pressol sprayers for a while now. From an aesthetic point of view, I love how I can fill them with a multitude of different products from different brands and have a matching label on each. Of course, that was the vision of someone else, and I can't deny or hide where that influence came from.

Functionally though, I have always felt the Kwazar Mercury 360 were vastly superior. For example, a thicker bottle that will not panel in under repeated spraying, as well the extra stabilizing piece on the base. The spray head itself has a smoother action, the trigger being longer to allow all of your fingers to wrap around it. Both are double action, spraying on both squeeze and release, but the atomization of the Kwazar was vastly superior and with a much wider range of adjustment.

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These original Pressol "Household" spray bottles were never intended for use with detailing chemicals. No, the black or red "Industrial" bottles with the ergonomic bottle design were better suited to this role, but because of that odd bottle shape, labels were not possible. So, that's why Matt went with the "Household" type and persisted with fixing the issues. And there were plenty of issues....................

- Because of the lack of spray pattern adjustment, the tips had to be cranked right down to achieve fine atomization. This would often split the plastic tip. I will say, I never had one single tip split on me, so I'm not sure what others were doing with them. :conf

- Alkaline chemicals would nuke the spray head seals within a very short period. Most spray heads have a limited life span with these chemicals, but not to the extent of these Pressol items. And it would happen with both the standard "Household" and tougher "Industrial" heads. I will say, I've killed Kwazar spray heads as well with high-pH products.

- Bottle paneling under repeated use.

- Certain chemicals leaching through the bottle, mainly from solvents such as tar remover. This became an issue because the microscopic leaching would dissolve the adhesive of those fancy labels and cause them to fall off.

- Ultra-slick products would cause the suction tube to fall off the spray head. Again, I never experienced this.

The big sticking point with Pressol has been the price, $25 vs the $17 for the Kwazar. And that's before you consider a basic Tolco sprayer and bottle for $5 had none of the above issues and would last longer with alkaline chemicals. So why pay the premium and get a worse durability?

Enter the Pressol Pro-Series. The culmination of 6-years work, which I think was far too long for what is just a plastic spray head and bottle, these new Pro-Series items feature a number of changes. The spray head internals have been upgraded to better resist alkalinity, effectively replacing both Household and Industrial spray heads from v1. The spray tip is now stainless steel, not plastic. The pickup tube is now silicone, which facilitates 360-degree spraying like the Kwazar's. The tube is now held in place with wire spring clips. And finally, the bottles are treated to prevent chemical leeching, a process called fluorination. All sounds great...................

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I'm not going to sit here and tell you these new versions solve all of the problems with v1. Actually, they created some new ones. For example, alkaline products can react with the fluorination process and cause the bottle to turn brown. The first batch of spray tips were accidentally made with steel and not stainless steel, so they rusted out. Certain products have caused the tube to fall off, and that's despite those fancy clips. And certain IPA-type products can nuke the seals too. I've sat back watching this happen, baffled as to why all this didn't get noticed during the "extensive torture testing". They had 6 years to get it right, but the problems are still there. And as a final insult, they are now even more expensive.

And yet, here I am buying another Pressol to try, go figure. :doh

On first acquaintance, those stainless steel tips look and feel amazing. They also atomize way, way better than v1................and the Kwazar too if I'm honest.

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Spring clips on both ends of the silicone pickup tube...................

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As you can see, the tube is ultra flexible and permits 360-degree spraying. Of course, no one is spraying with the bottle upside down, but this feature becomes handy as the bottle empties and while spraying at an awkward angle.

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The following is a comparison between the three Pressol spray heads. In the middle, the new Pro Series. On the right, the Household version with a ridged plastic tube and basic filter cap. On the left, the Industrial head with a semi-flexible pickup and weighted plastic filter. Of the older two, the Industrial was superior as the pickup point could move as the bottle was tilted, handy when the nearing empty, however it couldn't allow 360-degree movement.

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The improvements to spray pattern and the flexible pickup tube are instantly noticeable and appreciated, both aspects certainly better than before. What remains to be seen is how they perform over the longer term, namely the seals and that strange bottle staining.

You may question why spend so much on a spray bottle, especially one that isn't totally sorted. Well, I question that too. But then I see them lined up in my cabinet with the fancy labels and I'm sold. I get the same satisfaction with the Kwazar's too, but the Pressol's are next level. Naturally, how they look has nothing to do with functional performance, but visual pleasure is important to me and something I always look for in just about everything in life. I also love that clicky-click sound the Pressol trigger makes, super satisfying. So, while flawed, there is much to like as well.
 

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A little re-stock from Detailing Shed before the Christmas closures. The notable inclusion here being that spray bottle, the new Pressol Pro-Series.

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I've been using v1 Pressol sprayers for a while now. From an aesthetic point of view, I love how I can fill them with a multitude of different products from different brands and have a matching label on each. Of course, that was the vision of someone else, and I can't deny or hide where that influence came from.

Functionally though, I have always felt the Kwazar Mercury 360 were vastly superior. For example, a thicker bottle that will not panel in under repeated spraying, as well the extra stabilizing piece on the base. The spray head itself has a smoother action, the trigger being longer to allow all of your fingers to wrap around it. Both are double action, spraying on both squeeze and release, but the atomization of the Kwazar was vastly superior and with a much wider range of adjustment.

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These original Pressol "Household" spray bottles were never intended for use with detailing chemicals. No, the black or red "Industrial" bottles with the ergonomic bottle design were better suited to this role, but because of that odd bottle shape, labels were not possible. So, that's why Matt went with the "Household" type and persisted with fixing the issues. And there were plenty of issues....................

- Because of the lack of spray pattern adjustment, the tips had to be cranked right down to achieve fine atomization. This would often split the plastic tip. I will say, I never had one single tip split on me, so I'm not sure what others were doing with them. :conf

- Alkaline chemicals would nuke the spray head seals within a very short period. Most spray heads have a limited life span with these chemicals, but not to the extent of these Pressol items. And it would happen with both the standard "Household" and tougher "Industrial" heads. I will say, I've killed Kwazar spray heads as well with high-pH products.

- Bottle paneling under repeated use.

- Certain chemicals leaching through the bottle, mainly from solvents such as tar remover. This became an issue because the microscopic leaching would dissolve the adhesive of those fancy labels and cause them to fall off.

- Ultra-slick products would cause the suction tube to fall off the spray head. Again, I never experienced this.

The big sticking point with Pressol has been the price, $25 vs the $17 for the Kwazar. And that's before you consider a basic Tolco sprayer and bottle for $5 had none of the above issues and would last longer with alkaline chemicals. So why pay the premium and get a worse durability?

Enter the Pressol Pro-Series. The culmination of 6-years work, which I think was far too long for what is just a plastic spray head and bottle, these new Pro-Series items feature a number of changes. The spray head internals have been upgraded to better resist alkalinity, effectively replacing both Household and Industrial spray heads from v1. The spray tip is now stainless steel, not plastic. The pickup tube is now silicone, which facilitates 360-degree spraying like the Kwazar's. The tube is now held in place with wire spring clips. And finally, the bottles are treated to prevent chemical leeching, a process called fluorination. All sounds great...................

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I'm not going to sit here and tell you these new versions solve all of the problems with v1. Actually, they created some new ones. For example, alkaline products can react with the fluorination process and cause the bottle to turn brown. The first batch of spray tips were accidentally made with steel and not stainless steel, so they rusted out. Certain products have caused the tube to fall off, and that's despite those fancy clips. And certain IPA-type products can nuke the seals too. I've sat back watching this happen, baffled as to why all this didn't get noticed during the "extensive torture testing". They had 6 years to get it right, but the problems are still there. And as a final insult, they are now even more expensive.

And yet, here I am buying another Pressol to try, go figure. :doh

On first acquaintance, those stainless steel tips look and feel amazing. They also atomize way, way better than v1................and the Kwazar too if I'm honest.

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Spring clips on both ends of the silicone pickup tube...................

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As you can see, the tube is ultra flexible and permits 360-degree spraying. Of course, no one is spraying with the bottle upside down, but this feature becomes handy as the bottle empties and while spraying at an awkward angle.

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The following is a comparison between the three Pressol spray heads. In the middle, the new Pro Series. On the right, the Household version with a ridged plastic tube and basic filter cap. On the left, the Industrial head with a semi-flexible pickup and weighted plastic filter. Of the older two, the Industrial was superior as the pickup point could move as the bottle was tilted, handy when the nearing empty, however it couldn't allow 360-degree movement.

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The improvements to spray pattern and the flexible pickup tube are instantly noticeable and appreciated, both aspects certainly better than before. What remains to be seen is how they perform over the longer term, namely the seals and that strange bottle staining.

You may question why spend so much on a spray bottle, especially one that isn't totally sorted. Well, I question that too. But then I see them lined up in my cabinet with the fancy labels and I'm sold. I get the same satisfaction with the Kwazar's too, but the Pressol's are next level. Naturally, how they look has nothing to do with functional performance, but visual pleasure is important to me and something I always look for in just about everything in life. I also love that clicky-click sound the Pressol trigger makes, super satisfying. So, while flawed, there is much to like as well.
I agree about the look and feel of them. I have never spent so much money on bottles in my life, although the Black Friday 30% off sale did help a LOT. :) Got the entire ADS set then, plus 1 more for Amplify since I go thru it like water :) I still have an entire fleet of IK bottles for other chemicals, and a whole box of Tolco spray heads for those when they fail. Trying to keep all the heavy hitter chemicals in those bottles.
 
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I agree about the look and feel of them. I have never spent so much money on bottles in my life, although the Black Friday 30% off sale did help a LOT. :) Got the entire ADS set then, plus 1 more for Amplify since I go thru it like water :) I still have an entire fleet of IK bottles for other chemicals, and a whole box of Tolco spray heads for those when they fail. Trying to keep all the heavy hitter chemicals in those bottles.
I gave up putting HD chemicals in the Kwazar's, Shine Supply Wise Guy in particular was nuking them in short order. With the Pressol's, I purge the chemical back into the bottle and pump clean water through them. That seems to keep them alive.
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