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6500 rpms and up on a cross plane crank V8 the true X becomes an issue.
 

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6500 rpms and up on a cross plane crank V8 the true X becomes an issue.
This is news to me. I know several people with 10K rpm engines running X pipes.

Do you have any links to tests?
 

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6500 rpms and up on a cross plane crank V8 the true X becomes an issue.
What does 'becomes an issue' mean? I don't see anything happening at 6500 rpm on either of these X pipe dynos

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Note: True X
Not Sweep X or Oval tube sweep X such as in NASCAR.
 

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Just some teachings from Big Joe Sherman and Calvin Elston.
You know a couple of nobody guys. LOL
You’re old enough to know who Joe Sherman is without the Google memory crutch.
 
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What does 'becomes an issue' mean? I don't see anything happening at 6500 rpm on either of these X pipe dynos

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Steeda is a Sweep X design not a True X.
There’s still the designed waist area to be cautious about that it’s not undersized.
 
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When Big Joe shared info. GregO listens.

Just wondering because Jeff Lutz uses, or did use a true X pipe on his 57. I can't imagine him using something that hurts power. I was actually surprised when I saw it on the car.

I can say I had one on my car and got rid of it because I thought it hurt power. I never dynoed it.
 

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Some differences in the Steeda unit:

Product Benefits:
  • Proudly made in the USA!
  • Up to +8 hp
  • Up to +9.5 lb/ft of torque
  • X-pipe design improves exhaust flow over the factory resonator and H-pipe design up to 20%
  • 304SS will not rust like inferior 409SS or aluminized steel pipes
Steeda is a solid option (I know there are other conversations taking place but wanted to share the Steeda difference :)

https://www.steeda.com/steeda-555-3618-s550-x-pipe
 

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Not sure who this guy is, but he's wearing a lab coat. So, he must be smart.
He has some interesting points.
 

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The first X crossover example is text book Porsche 6 cylinder which is effective for the 6 cylinders.
The second example was referred to as an H pipe but is clearly a stamped sweep X.
The air hose and toilet paper example is cute but anyone into exhaust science knows exhaust gasses after the header collectors is a tumble and roll situation.
 

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The first X crossover example is text book Porsche 6 cylinder which is effective for the 6 cylinders.
The second example was referred to as an H pipe but is clearly a stamped sweep X.
The air hose and toilet paper example is cute but anyone into exhaust science knows exhaust gasses after the header collectors is a tumble and roll situation.
You should make a YouTube video and wear a 2 lab coats. And put this guy's video to shame for putting crappy information on YouTube. LOL

Btw didn't even know exhaust science was a thing. Is it more of a hobby like radio people or is it an actual thing?
 

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Btw didn't even know exhaust science was a thing. Is it more of a hobby like radio people or is it an actual thing?
You are kidding, right?
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