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No matter what the talking heads state the future is ice/hybrid and ev and maybe fuel cell. The sooner everyone gets on board with that reality the better off everyone will be.
yea, that’s a hard no from the wingnutt clan…keeping our noisy smelly cars, thanks 😎
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If you think there is no decent time difference between an actual pro driver (like the GTD driver) and the engineer that drove the ZR1 (hint: he doesn’t race cars professionally), then there is nothing I can say to you at this point.
Some pro drivers run at the front of the pack and some run in the rear. This engineer just might be capable of racing at the front, but for reasons unknown to us, decides racing for a living is not for them.
 

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Some pro drivers run at the front of the pack and some run in the rear. This engineer just might be capable of racing at the front, but for reasons unknown to us, decides racing for a living is not for them.
Respectfully disagree. If someone is CONSISTENTLY FAST, they race for a living and make big money doing it. No one is going to say: “Well I could make $5M a year racing for Mercedes F1, but I like being a cubicle for $250K a year, so I’ll just do that.” Those that can, do. It’s that simple. Anyone can have a great lap or two here and there, it’s the pros that do it CONSISTENTLY. Heck, I’ve made some great putts in my time on earth. No one grabbed me off the green and asked me to challenge Tiger Woods lol. 😂
 

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Since this thread has gone to complete garbage, I'll give my opinion.

I think the Corvettes are ugly.

I would never buy one.
 

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Quick phone grabs but I tried to pin the location to approximately the same spot on the course, the beginning of the long straight at the end. Click, zoom and note the time for each. The GTD and the ZR1 (no, not the X) were in a dead heat with a drag race ahead of them.

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ZR1 was 6:10.9
GTD was 6:11.0

So with less weight, an additional 200 horsepower, potentially slicker aero, I saw the ZR1 hit 199mph. The GTD hit 188mph. In other words, the two cars ended up being damn near identical after all the turns were said and done on a 13 mile course and the Corvette was finally able to take advantage of 1,000+ horsepower at the end. I haven't compared the rest of the respective videos but the GTD may indeed have been ahead at times, I'll have to look.

I'd say yesterday was a win for the overweight slug that was down on power. I expected far better from the Corvette. The Z06 should have stayed home. And why buy an X at all given how it barely beat the ZR1?
 
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It’s not much but I thought it was cool from Vaughn to see the order process with a Ford rep on the phone
 

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Just took delivery of my Grabber Blue GTD

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It’s not much but I thought it was cool from Vaughn to see the order process with a Ford rep on the phone
I’m a fan of the color

 

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So I put up the two videos, ZR1 vs GTD, and started them together matching the clocks on each fairly closely. It was clear very quickly - the GTD was never ahead. The ZR1 stayed a couple of seconds ahead for quite a while, and just short of the carousel Dirk gained much of that back but before long the Corvette was pulling away again.

I added in the mph text on the GTD side to keep both units of measure the same.

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Just prior to the carousel with Dirk gaining...

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Cliffs - ZR1 pulls away almost instantly, GTD maintains distance between the two, but once they hit the straight there was no catching up.

If Farley is serious with what he said about "game on", Ford is going to (at the very least) have to do a second year power bump. Given recent EPA legislation, etc, the carpet has been rolled out for them do it. It's just a matter of Ford doing something they normally would never do. If GM chooses to go back with legit, professional drivers, the gap is only going to widen.
 
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If Farley is serious with what he said about "game on", Ford is going to (at the very least) have to do a second year power bump. Given recent EPA legislation, etc, the carpet has been rolled out for them do it. It's just a matter of Ford doing something they normally would never do. If GM chooses to go back with legit, professional drivers, the gap is only going to widen.
Add power or drop the weight

i forgot the actual calculation but for every 100lb is about 0.5 seconds on a two mile track. If they make a stripped GTD similar to the base 350R , I imagine it would buy a few second


I’m curious how they would gain more reliable power with the current set up
 

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I mentioned power because weight ain't happenin', let's be honest. They could go to 5.4 liters, certify to new standards with higher flowing cats, and yup, more boost. Name it, they are gonna have to try it.
 

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I mentioned power because weight ain't happenin', let's be honest. They could go to 5.4 liters, certify to new standards with higher flowing cats, and yup, more boost. Name it, they are gonna have to try it.
TT setup instead of a S/C would be my vote.
 

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So I put up the two videos, ZR1 vs GTD, and started them together matching the clocks on each fairly closely. It was clear very quickly - the GTD was never ahead. The ZR1 stayed a couple of seconds ahead for quite a while, and just short of the carousel Dirk gained much of that back but before long the Corvette was pulling away again.

I added in the mph text on the GTD side to keep both units of measure the same.

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Cliffs - ZR1 pulls away almost instantly, GTD maintains distance between the two, but once they hit the straight there was no catching up.

If Farley is serious with what he said about "game on", Ford is going to (at the very least) have to do a second year power bump. Given recent EPA legislation, etc, the carpet has been rolled out for them do it. It's just a matter of Ford doing something they normally would never do. If GM chooses to go back with legit, professional drivers, the gap is only going to widen.

It's too bad they can't take more weight out of it because that would change everything. Really goes to show you that multimatic is NEXT LEVEL. Props to Larry Holt and team over there. In that video you posted earlier, that guy said that the Ferrari Purosangue and F80 run the multimatic setup above the GTD. Who is that guy btw? He seems connected with Ford.
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