GT 350 R LONG TERM VALUE

[Tomster]

To purchase and then install a set of 19" CF wheels, 305/315/30ZR19 front/rear Michelin Sport Cup 2 tires, CF rear wing, large front chin spoiler, performance front springs and resonator delete, there is not a hope that us enthusiasts could duplicate Equipment Group 920A for the $7,500 that Ford was asking back then.

I'm not going to argue that, but the point was that an R is nothing but the same chassis with some enhanced parts.

You and I were fortunate to have had these cars available to us. That is not true for everyone. Anyone who wants an R now has to buy from the available inventory. Slim pickings.

On the other hand, one certainly could, if they are patient, amass the parts over time and retrofit a standard GT350 into R spec. I see wheels on ebay all the time. Minor repairs and a set could be had for a song wheel by wheel.

The same is true for the rest of the car. For those that seek the next level of performance, and the VIN and collector factor be damned, anyone could replicate an R and even surpass it IMHO.

But to each his own. All of us current GT350 and R owners have that right.

As an owner of a GT350, 526HRSE has the right to his opinion as well as modifying his car as he sees fit. His opinion as a current owner is exactly that.

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[stanglife]

Of course you feel the need to validate your purchase.

interesting.

 

[ecoboost321]

I'm not going to argue that, but the point was that an R is nothing but the same chassis with some enhanced parts.

You and I were fortunate to have had these cars available to us. That is not true for everyone. Anyone who wants an R now has to buy from the available inventory. Slim pickings.

On the other hand, one certainly could, if they are patient, amass the parts over time and retrofit a standard GT350 into R spec. I see wheels on ebay all the time. Minor repairs and a set could be had for a song wheel by wheel.

The same is true for the rest of the car. For those that seek the next level of performance, and the VIN and collector factor be damned, anyone could replicate an R and even surpass it IMHO.

But to each his own. All of us current GT350 and R owners have that right.

As an owner of a GT350, 526HRSE has the right to his opinion as well as modifying his car as he sees fit. His opinion as a current owner is exactly that.

I remember there being a specific engine code and components for the R models, that carried thru 2018 (cam phasers for one). After 2019, all the GT350/GT350R mustangs had same engine (R code) Also, ABS programming and stability control unique to the R as well, given the unique aero, suspension, and wheel/tire package.

 

[ecoboost321]

I agree with many of the comments made in this thread. But the first step, in my opinion, (and probably the cheapest and safest modification) to go from a GT350 to GT350R is to remove the resonators. This engine sounds like nothing else with the resonators removed

 

[Tomster]

I remember there being a specific engine code and components for the R models, that carried thru 2018 (cam phasers for one). After 2019, all the GT350/GT350R mustangs had same engine (R code) Also, ABS programming and stability control unique to the R as well, given the unique aero, suspension, and wheel/tire package.

Yep, early R engine differences. But in the grand scheme of things nothing major. The rest is just parts, which are readily available on the internet, at places such as parts farm, midway Mustang, etc. A perfect opportunity for those that want the same performance, but for less.

I'm a multi R owner and the first to admit that the performance differences are not that much. You can swap the various parts and produce an R clone. From a standard GT350 owner, the best performance value is the wheels. If you choose to go CF or as a second choice forged aluminum, you can easily realize performance modifications for not that much money (relative to buying new at the dealership).

Again, I and some others have been fortunate to have had access to the many Rs that I've owned. I won't be an R snob, because again it's just the difference in the parts. The people that might find exception to this are the ones who are more into the collectability side of the equation as opposed to the performance side of it.

I have mine because I could and they best fit how I use them. Others buy them and flip them and no longer own any GT350s, but continue to second guess folks who still own the car.

To each their own

Good evening gentlemen.

 

[ecoboost321]

Yep, early R engine differences. But in the grand scheme of things nothing major. The rest is just parts, which are readily available on the internet, at places such as parts farm, midway Mustang, etc. A perfect opportunity for those that want the same performance, but for less.

I'm a multi R owner and the first to admit that the performance differences are not that much. You can swap the various parts and produce an R clone. From a standard GT350 owner, the best performance value is the wheels. If you choose to go CF or as a second choice forged aluminum, you can easily realize performance modifications for not that much money (relative to buying new at the dealership).

Again, I and some others have been fortunate to have had access to the many Rs that I've owned. I won't be an R snob, because again it's just the difference in the parts. The people that might find exception to this are the ones who are more into the collectability side of the equation as opposed to the performance side of it.

I have mine because I could and they best fit how I use them. Others buy them and flip them and no longer own any GT350s, but continue to second guess folks who still own the car.

To each their own

Good evening gentlemen.

Agree 100% ! I also thought would be great project to take a base, non-Magneride 2016 GT350 (had MSRP of $49,999) and install coil over suspension, and other bits, gut the interior, and make truly track focused car

 

[svttim]

And the differences between an R and non R are negligible. You didn't have a 2 seater, you had a 4 seater without seat padding. (That in itself is how R owners try and stand out.) Of course you feel the need to validate your purchase.

4 seconds at VIR negligible (2 when compared to the 19/20 GT350)

 

[svttim]

Agree 100% ! I also thought would be great project to take a base, non-Magneride 2016 GT350 (had MSRP of $49,999) and install coil over suspension, and other bits, gut the interior, and make truly track focused car

If you can find one it would be a lot of fun

 

[PP0001]

4 seconds at VIR negligible (2 when compared to the 19/20 GT350)

You also need to keep in mind that your R model is really a 4-seater without seat padding?

Hard to make some of this stuff up!

 

[Tomster]

Hmm. It's a 4 seat chassis where the seat was physically removed to save a few pounds.

The only difference between an R chassis and any other S550 chassis is the vin number.

Yep, the R has the same steel boat anchor chassis as the ecoboost, GT, and the lowly standard GT350.

And the difference between the R and any other Mustang that rolls down the Flat Rock assembly line is the ballance of the parts.

Can't make this stuff up.

 

[ecoboost321]

4 seconds at VIR negligible (2 when compared to the 19/20 GT350)

Less than 2 seconds at NCM Motorsports park, with pro driver (Andy Pilgrim) for the 2020 models (GT350R with revised steering rack from GT500 and “Gen 2” motor, and latest Magneride and ABS programming bespoke to GT350R). My guess is if you put carbon wheels and tires from the GT350R alone on the GT350 out there with Andy Pilgrim, would be close to dead even.

2020 GT350 2:15.13 (+1.52 seconds)
2020 GT350R. 2:13.61

If you listen to his commentary at 13:20 mark of video, he gives insight from the Ford Performance engineers as well.

 

[PP0001]

Hmm. It's a 4 seat chassis where the seat was physically removed to save a few pounds.

The only difference between an R chassis and any other S550 chassis is the vin number.

Yep, the R has the same steel boat anchor chassis as the ecoboost, GT, and the lowly standard GT350.

And the difference between the R and any other Mustang that rolls down the Flat Rock assembly line is the ballance of the parts.

Can't make this stuff up.

Wow, thanks for outstanding education as I must have missed all that when I was touring the FRAP in 2019 as none of the senior managers mentioned any of that.

Once again, you need to remember that the R model VIN was no different than the VIN for a Base GT350 for the last 3 model years.

Thanks again!

 

[Tomster]

Says the guy who doesn't own an R or a GT350. Unless you bought back in....

"I suggest" the VIN does indeed reveal that if a particular car is an R. All that stuff is recorded and kept.

 

[PP0001]

Says the guy who doesn't own an R or a GT350. Unless you bought back in....

"I suggest" the VIN does indeed reveal that if a particular car is an R. All that stuff is recorded and kept.

Just another glaring example of you misleading our members with information that is totally inaccurate.

 

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