PBD tuners - one in mind.

[KKell83]

Is AED still ok or did Shawn fall behind the shadows. Last I read he’s over charging and underperforming… rumors though.

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[KKell83]

Exactly.On revision #6 and all the bugs still not fixed

it took me around 6-8 on the first round of mods - your basic run of the mill P1X, 2018 manifold (locked) and FIC1000s.

I am on my 4th currently and he just sent me another one minutes ago (so 5th). I changed the manifold and TB

 

[Justgonna send it]

I’m tapping out with PBD. I have found two different tuners that will work with my Nguage. (Lund &Ortiz’s) so my next mod (Ess kit ) will be tuned by one of them. But good luck with your revision

 

[KKell83]

I’m tapping out with PBD. I have found two different tuners that will work with my Nguage. (Lund &Ortiz’s) so my next mod (Ess kit ) will be tuned by one of them. But good luck with your revision

Thanks for all your help. Let me know who you go with and how they are; you should know within the first tune/revision

 

[Justgonna send it]

Probably gonna be Lund. There customer service. Has been spot. They return my question Email with end hours. Unlikes days with PBD. And the last 3 car they tuned at my go to performance shop @jayman33 has put down some big numbers.

 

[KKell83]

Probably gonna be Lund. There customer service. Has been spot. They return my question Email with end hours. Unlikes days with PBD. And the last 3 car they tuned at my go to performance shop @jayman33 has put down some big numbers.

what are they charging nowadays? Way back I think I added up $1100 and that was using my HP tool and without credits.

 

[Justgonna send it]

That I don’t fully know. I’m n/a now. But I know power adder tunes cost more. I’ll have to price it out and get back to you

 

[KKell83]

That I don’t fully know. I’m n/a now. But I know power adder tunes cost more. I’ll have to price it out and get back to you

Oh that’s right. Well when you do buy/install/tune, that future ESS kit it’ll be a rocket.

 

[Justgonna send it]

I’m ready. I Only made
465whp at 6800k and 420tq 4600k Car wouldnt rev pass 6800 . People say that’s good number for pump gas but I’m waiting more now.

 

[Wolfys11]

I have watched some of his past videos (not him personally) and the cars seems very ‘very’ tame. Like he’s not pushing anything - low to mid 600s on a boost application like 10psi. Hard for me to stomach. Maybe they were just older videos and he’s out making a name for himself now.

Im personally running about 700whp(still need to dyno to check exactly) on about 10psi on 93 pump gas with ess kit, it took us 2 revisions and it was 100% spot on, quick responses, he does exactly what ya ask for and maybe he doesnt push insane numbers, however remember pbd has a record for blowing motors up. Pbd usually pushes too far for safety on cars driven on the street. Wengerd has a super super smooth drivability tune that makes some serious sauce for what ya have, if you want 850whp then sorry you need to have the mods for it, any tuner that forcefully tunes power is a terrible tuner.
On a side note, videos also arent good representations of tunes. A stock 460hp mustang with a tune will feel a million times better than a stock tune 460hp mustang just from the way the car drives and feels when tuned. If you really want more hp than you already make, its very possible you just need better fueling and more boost instead of asking for more from the current setup and lower fueling

 

[Wolfys11]

Probably gonna be Lund. There customer service. Has been spot. They return my question Email with end hours. Unlikes days with PBD. And the last 3 car they tuned at my go to performance shop @jayman33 has put down some big numbers.

Personally from my mustang ecoboost, lund was bad customer service. This was years ago, but after they refused to look at their tune for me because their tune is perfect, especially when they tuned me for a pp car when i wasnt pp, and scared me with no oil pressure lights, i dropped them from my personal list of tuners

 

[Justgonna send it]

Personally from my mustang ecoboost, lund was bad customer service. This was years ago, but after they refused to look at their tune for me because their tune is perfect, especially when they tuned me for a pp car when i wasnt pp, and scared me with no oil pressure lights, i dropped them from my personal list of tuners

What tuner did you use for your eco. I have one of those also.

 

[KKell83]

Im personally running about 700whp(still need to dyno to check exactly) on about 10psi on 93 pump gas with ess kit, it took us 2 revisions and it was 100% spot on, quick responses, he does exactly what ya ask for and maybe he doesnt push insane numbers, however remember pbd has a record for blowing motors up. Pbd usually pushes too far for safety on cars driven on the street. Wengerd has a super super smooth drivability tune that makes some serious sauce for what ya have, if you want 850whp then sorry you need to have the mods for it, any tuner that forcefully tunes power is a terrible tuner.
On a side note, videos also arent good representations of tunes. A stock 460hp mustang with a tune will feel a million times better than a stock tune 460hp mustang just from the way the car drives and feels when tuned. If you really want more hp than you already make, its very possible you just need better fueling and more boost instead of asking for more from the current setup and lower fueling

I agree with this, I wouldn’t want a tuner to push beyond the means of blowing an engine but also had the capability and knowledge to push big numbers with the proper equipment and fuel. Numbers did seem low but that’s just me talking - true figures are seen at the track and/or the pants feel.

What I need is solid drivability and someone who’ll figure out my MPH after I installed newer rims/tires; dang thing is off and I was told that I need to buy another part to set it up correctly.

 

[Wolfys11]

What tuner did you use for your eco. I have one of those also.

I used tunedbynishan, insanely good at the eco platform. However, if im not mistaken i think he doesnt tune anymorr, i think he took over his fathers business now. But i could be wrong, check them out, i had it dynotuned in new jersey using him. Cant guarenteee he still does though

 

[Wolfys11]

I agree with this, I wouldn’t want a tuner to push beyond the means of blowing an engine but also had the capability and knowledge to push big numbers with the proper equipment and fuel. Numbers did seem low but that’s just me talking - true figures are seen at the track and/or the pants feel.

What I need is solid drivability and someone who’ll figure out my MPH after I installed newer rims/tires; dang thing is off and I was told that I need to buy another part to set it up correctly.

Well im running a comparable setup i believe if your on 93 pump gas. Mine feels superb, of course its not a positive displacement feel, but the way it is, it pulls like a damn rocket up top, could i have more? Of course. But that needs e85 to be safe, ive heard of the 780whp range on our setups but those are really really really pushing reliability problems! I highly suggest if you want the 800+whp, just make e85 work. Thats my plan in the future. Most of us ess guys LOVE wengerd, the car just simply loves the tune, drives great almost like stock on the low end, up top it becomes a jet and feels strong. There is also of course the almost instant response time from him, i cant recommend him enough.
Lund will tune for lower boost and hp than wengerd will by 1 psi on pump gas.
pbd will probably blow your motor
Others i dont have enough experience with but with centri setups, wengerd been superb!

for your mph issue, get forscan. Im sure you can calculate what you need on an online calculator, or make a post herefor someone to do it, and just forscan code the difference! I dont believe any tuner can do that for you, different part of the coding

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