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Looks like Sweden, the medias whipping post, has numbers better than the rest of the world.
Median age of Fl is 42
Median age of Ca is 36.5
Fl without restrictions and an older population should have a higher infection rate if masks and lockdowns work.

Ny VS FL

This article admits Fl's rates are better than NY but then uses excuses and double speak to try and blow it off as just an anomaly.
https://www.politifact.com/factchec...comparing-new-york-and-florida-covid-19-flaw/

This chart shows each State and all are statistically equal. Some States were on strict lockdown and mask policies and some were not. Rates are the same. Scroll down for the state by state breakdown.

https://covidusa.net/

Sweden is now lower per capita than most of the world.

MASKS and LOCKDOWNS did nothing to prevent the spread of Covid. The proof is very obvious if one looks and quits believing CNN.
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You seem to be a legend in your own mind.

Again, your confusion is palpable. The quote you pulled is one that I was actually going to post! It proves my point. We don't know why, so you can't make a snap judgement that masks are ineffective. There are too many variables to account for including not knowing enough about a new, novel virus. Wearing a mask is a trivial thing. Data and studies have shown that they are generally effective. Choosing not to wear one is (was) selfish.

The 'tactic' is indeed to show that you are not very smart, don't understand basic concepts of science, are very selfish and quite biased. Folks should absolutely think less of your comments because of it.

Maybe you should drop the keyboard and finally get yourself a Mustang and go have some fun for the last few years you have left.
Hello; No such is not the case. The argument over the last few months has been lockdowns and mask mandates were the way to do things. Some states started opening up and dropped the mask mandates. When the open states first did this there was an outcry about how there was going to be massive increases in the covid19 infections in them. So time has passed and the big increases did not happen. In fact the two states in the focus of this question are about neck and neck with cases.

The situation is the lockdown champions just do not want to admit they called it wrong. So much for new information directing decisions. You also attempted to narrow the most recent exchange back to mask wearing only. The lockdowns which forced people inside were also part of the deal. The dire predictions were about what would happen when people in open states got together outside. Florida opened up. Spring break happened. People went to the beach and have been doing other outside activities.

One last point. You got it wrong again, I did wear a mask when in stores before I got the vaccine. I am not foolish enough to wear one since. I do not need a mask. No one vaccinated or naturally recovered needs to wear a mask. Add to this that unless you can get a good N95 mask and have it fit well, the masks are minimally effective. Like the rocks in schools example I used. Better than nothing to be sure, but not by a lot.

I was about to throw some personal jabs at you but will not. People who may still have an interest in the discussion can judge for themselves about both of us. I will not be drawn into a heated exchange of insults which I also suspect is another part of your tactic.
 

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Hello; Here is my plan. I ask that you keep to civil comments and discussion. I will report to the mods when the name calling and other such disruptive posts starts in the hope those in violation will be dealt with and that the thread not be shut down or locked.
Then don't post this crap when you know people are sick and tired of hearing about it. Yes, it's real, the Enfluenza Flu virus is real, cancer is real, blood clots, brain aneurysms, Heart Attacks, Drunk Driver's killing people is real, everyone can see this. But let's keep this form about Mustangs period.
 

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But let's keep this form about Mustangs period.
If you don't like the discussion, don't read the thread. There is more to life than Mustang's
 
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Then don't post this crap when you know people are sick and tired of hearing about it. Yes, it's real, the Enfluenza Flu virus is real, cancer is real, blood clots, brain aneurysms, Heart Attacks, Drunk Driver's killing people is real, everyone can see this. But let's keep this form about Mustangs period.
Hello; Sorry but I do not buy your argument in the least. There are hundreds, maybe thousands, of threads on the site. I do not comment in the ones I do not have an interest in. This was posted in an area for topics not having anything to do with mustangs.

Here is a suggestion. Do not read the threads you do not like.

Edit- Thanks for reminding me. I may start reporting the name calling. May be a way to have a more civil conversation.
 

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If you don't like the discussion, don't read the thread. There is more to life than Mustang's
Then post on the "LIFE" Forums, Not the Car Forums. You might be a Doctor, But your not my Doctor.
 

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I suggest you stick to the Mustang sub forums and stay away from the "off topic" sub forum.
 
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Hello; It is one sort of thing to decide for yourself about this. To have to decide for a child is going to be difficult.
 

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Looks like Sweden, the medias whipping post, has numbers better than the rest of the world.
Median age of Fl is 42
Median age of Ca is 36.5
Fl without restrictions and an older population should have a higher infection rate if masks and lockdowns work.

Ny VS FL

This article admits Fl's rates are better than NY but then uses excuses and double speak to try and blow it off as just an anomaly.
https://www.politifact.com/factchec...comparing-new-york-and-florida-covid-19-flaw/

This chart shows each State and all are statistically equal. Some States were on strict lockdown and mask policies and some were not. Rates are the same. Scroll down for the state by state breakdown.

https://covidusa.net/

Sweden is now lower per capita than most of the world.

MASKS and LOCKDOWNS did nothing to prevent the spread of Covid. The proof is very obvious if one looks and quits believing CNN.
More simple rejections and errors in thinking. Can you be specific about what you claim as doublespeak and excuses?

From the article


Our ruling
An Instagram post says New York’s lockdown measures led to more death and economic destruction while Florida’s more open approach led to less.

The post overstates the correlation between the numbers and lockdown rules. It leaves out important factors, including environment and public health initiatives, and ignores that the two states collect and report data differently.

Most significantly, it ignores that New York City was the epicenter of the nation’s first wave, before doctors had the equipment, therapeutics and experience needed to fight the new disease. States like Florida were able to learn and benefit from New York’s experience.

We rate this Mostly False.
 

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Hello; No such is not the case. The argument over the last few months has been lockdowns and mask mandates were the way to do things. Some states started opening up and dropped the mask mandates. When the open states first did this there was an outcry about how there was going to be massive increases in the covid19 infections in them. So time has passed and the big increases did not happen. In fact the two states in the focus of this question are about neck and neck with cases.

The situation is the lockdown champions just do not want to admit they called it wrong. So much for new information directing decisions. You also attempted to narrow the most recent exchange back to mask wearing only. The lockdowns which forced people inside were also part of the deal. The dire predictions were about what would happen when people in open states got together outside. Florida opened up. Spring break happened. People went to the beach and have been doing other outside activities.

One last point. You got it wrong again, I did wear a mask when in stores before I got the vaccine. I am not foolish enough to wear one since. I do not need a mask. No one vaccinated or naturally recovered needs to wear a mask. Add to this that unless you can get a good N95 mask and have it fit well, the masks are minimally effective. Like the rocks in schools example I used. Better than nothing to be sure, but not by a lot.

I was about to throw some personal jabs at you but will not. People who may still have an interest in the discussion can judge for themselves about both of us. I will not be drawn into a heated exchange of insults which I also suspect is another part of your tactic.
I'll post this one last time old timer. What part is wrong again?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0196655320310439

Results
A total of 6 studies were included, involving 4 countries, after a total of 5,178 eligible articles were searched in databases and references. In general, wearing a mask was associated with a significantly reduced risk of COVID-19 infection (OR = 0.38, 95% CI: 0.21-0.69, I2 = 54.1%). For the healthcare workers group, masks were shown to have a reduced risk of infection by nearly 70%. Sensitivity analysis showed that the results were robust.

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This systematic review and meta-analysis evaluated the effectiveness of the use of masks to prevent SARS-CoV-2 transmission.

This study demonstrated the protective effects of masks against COVID-19 infection on HCWs and other populations.

The detailed analysis in different populations, countries and mask types were conducted to better clarify the effectiveness of wearing masks.
 

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The detailed analysis in different populations, countries and mask types were conducted to better clarify the effectiveness of wearing masks.
Except in the real world it did not work
 

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Firstly, stalk much bro. Secondly, you're writing like someone whose defending himself for having issues with the popular kid.

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